Hello to everyone! new member with a problem.

[evnik]

I am new to this site and i wanted for sometime know to share my experience and get some advice, or just opinions. I had my first lucid dream when i was young, i think i was about 13 years old. At that time, i didn't know if this thing i was able to do had a name or what it was exactly.. This first dream was really intense and i remember it vividly to this day: I found myself in the middle of nowhere, in a place with a lot of mirrors and many people walking around, talking to one another, when i suddenly realized (i don't know how) that i was dreaming. I instantly felt thrilled and thought to myself: ok i'm in a dream, let's see if and how i can prove it! i had the idea to transform someone there into someone else. The only person i could think of at that time was Cindy Crawford (!). I grabbed a random person out of the bunch and looked at him/her, then closed my eyes and imagined the face of the model. Opened my eyes and there she was! From that day on i had lucid dreams almost every night and day by day my powers grew stronger. I remember asking people if they could do what i' ve been doing or what is this ability called but back then nobody knew. My family members, my friends and the kids from school never had this type of dreams and didn't seem interested to be honest, so i just continued lucid dreaming without sharing anything. The years passed and i continued to lucid dream without any effort or techniques and, after each dream i felt more sure of myself in my dreams and could do more and more things with my mind. After some time i read an article about lucid dreaming in a magazine and could FINALLY give a name to what i've been doing for years. Some years ago, i thing it was in 2009, i started reading about lucid dreaming in forums and learning new things i could practice, like going through mirrors to some other side of my mind, or examining what my dream characters are made of by looking really close at them. I was really excited. Then one night, i go to sleep and experience something new for the first time: the dream within a dream. I became lucid in my first dream, then go to sleep again, and find myself in a long road. I quickly realize that this too is a dream and remember how i was dreaming before, where i was, what i saw, and how i slept (once again) to find myself there. This second dream i remember was a lot "heavier", dark, and empty of people and of any kind of activity. I started walking in that empty road and then saw in the distance a bunch of kids. They were very young, i think about 7-8 years old. As far as i can remember there was 5 of 6 of them, walking towards me, talking to one another and laughing. I remember i felt scared of them and sensed that although they were kids, there was something adult and "evil" (in a way) about them. When they came close to me they formed a circle around me and stopped talking, they just stared at me. I then remembered what i had read on the lucid dreaming forums about examining the substance of my dreams and came really close to one of them to see what it was made of. I then saw that it was made of many illuminating spots, like stars. I had some personal issues at that time so i decided to ask them a question to, maybe, get the answers i wanted. I talked to them in English (although English is not my mother tongue). I asked a question and then one of them answered me. He was moving his lips but the voice came from the sky.I got my answer (it was somewhat of a riddle), and remember feeling that this answer came from someone who wasn't me - or my subconscious. I then woke up, not like i normally wake up, i just opened my eyes suddenly. After the dream, although i felt that i shouldn't talk to anyone about it i did. It was so vivid and so "real" and weird that i just couldn't keep it to myself. After that day i stopped lucid dreaming. Not only that, but i stopped remembering any of my dreams and when i did, they were just too "heavy" and blurry. It is 7 years since then and i had one or two lucid dreams but i have no powers anymore, i can't do the simplest thing. I want to lucid dream again and now, for the first time i decided to use the techniques suggested and have a dream journal. Has anyone had a similar experience? What do you think happened and i suddenly (in one night) lost the ability i've had since childhood? Sorry for the long post

[gab]

to DreamViews, evnik! That is a very interesting story. Unfortunatelly all I can say, that maybe same way one day you started having lucids without effort, same way it just suddenly stopped. Most of us have to practice and put a lot of effort into having lucid dreams. I'm pretty sure that's how you can get your lucids back. Especially since you say you had 1-2 since then. So you didn't lose the ability. Did you sleep schedule changed? Or anything happened in your life that would make you not think about dreams as much or you don't get enough quality sleep to remember them? I did have a few dreams within dreams, when I went to sleep in one and woke up in another lucid. But here on the forum, most of us believe that those are just regular dreams, not a dream "within" or "layered" one. If you would like to start practicing to have LD, here is a link Induction Methods and Techniques http://www.dreamviews.com/dild/13212...ods-dilds.html I think your lucids were DILDs - when in a dream you realize you are dreaming. So I would start practicing DILD and read the RCs tutorial for more info. Good luck and Happy dreams!

[evnik]

Hey gab, thank you for your reply! The reason i feel the way i stopped lucid dreaming on a regular basis is strange, is because of how sudden it was. I described it as losing my ability to LD but, as you say, since i had 1-2 it's not exactly that i lost it completely. I can describe it better. I feel like i've gone a thousand steps back! It was so difficult (and still is) to even remember my dreams after this that it got me thinking. I didn't change my sleep schedule and no, nothing so special happened. On the contrary, after this dream i got more excited about the possibilities and started thinking more about my dreams. The only thing i can think of is that my subconscious is punishing me, in a way, for revealing information about the dream that i felt were too personal to share. The reason i believe the second dream was a dream within a dream is because it had a completely different "texture", it felt deeper, but as you say, i may have been a normal dream, just weird I will start practicing and see if i can get my dreams back! I totally miss them and feel like i lost a part of me :/

[gab]

Yeah, I'm not claiming what I said about dream within a dream or reason for your drop in recall and lucids is true or real. That's just one of the most prevalent explanations. I personally believe there is lot more to dreams and everything surrounding them than just "oh they are all in your head and nothing else". One day I'm hoping to find it all out, haha. Post and read, get excited, practice and I'm sure your recall and LDs will come back. Happy dreams

[Hirondelle]

Hi Evnik, Just to say I've read your story and find it truly amazing. Can't answer any of your questions, sorry (our brains are soooo complicated), but want to wish you good luck getting "the LD-machine" running again! I'm sure you can make it happen!

[Smudgefish]

Hi evnik, Your story is fascinating. Are you able to tell us more about what question you asked and what the reply was? I am no expert at this having had only one truly lucid dream ever (still trying!) I have read that dreams are the first layer in many layers of astral planes, others of which can be accessed by dissolving away the immediate dream layer and seeing what lies beyond, or by astral projection. Maybe your 'dream within a dream' was a step into a higher astral plane. Perhaps you stumbled into a higher plane and met something a bit more frightening than you were ready for and you have subconciously protected yourself from going there again. Perhaps trying to convince your subconcious that you will stick to being lucid in just the normal dream level would be the way to go, not sure how you do that though. Just a thought from a newbie.