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      Hello, it's an impulsive guy

      Hello dreamers, this is a late introduction

      Lucid dreaming is not a new thing for me, I am into it almost for 10 years. What is the result? Only 1 real lucid dream (long, highly vivid) and a few lucidish experiences. That one LD was a DILD, thanks to a reality check I was doing those days. It was 8 years ago. It was a huge experience for me, I can still remember every detail of it. It was so good that I probably felt that it will never happen again.

      Yes, I am an impulsive guy. Some times of the year I start practicing so hard, it lasts for a few days. I mostly try WILD to get the result instantly, with high effort. No, it doesn't work.

      Now with the start of 2021, I am starting again. I will not hurry up. I will not expect results in 1 or 2 days. This is not the way I am but I will try.

      I have an idea. I know that a partner can stabilize my effort. Since I have no one to share my work and experiences on LD, after some time I'm losing my motivation.
      Who is with me? Be my guide, be my partner, be my coach...
      Ah also, if there are people like me, with can also do this as a group, with at least one disciplined person.
      I'm open for your suggestions.

      P.S: Maybe I described myself not correctly, maybe it's not impulsiveness but immaturity.

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      Honestly, it takes me several months of practice to get lucid on kind of regular basis, and then it's so easily lost when work gets hard. I would hope for results within 2-4 months of solid daytime & nighttime practice and dream journaling. I don't know about a partner, but you are always welcome to join us in the lucid tasks, the book club, and of course journaling your dreams here online for other members to read. Good luck!!
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      I would think a late introduction is still welcome, maxmin099.

      Myself, I have gone through a few periods where I tried very hard to get into LDing practice but to be honest, because of how my sleep works (poorly), it doesn't make a huge difference for me to really focus massively on practice, especially if it's only going to be for short-bursts. I have known and practised things about lucid dreaming for many years and still I have only had a handful of lucid dreams I can count on my hands and enough pre-lucid moments that I can't recall clearly anymore, but this doesn't really demotivate me so much anymore, I've learned to accept that I may simply take a long time to reach what I want (or what I don't yet know I want).

      Your renewed approach to take some more time and try to be more patient is good and may take some self-disciplining but you may find yourself more balanced about dreaming as a whole for it too.

      And for motivation, I like to simply visit the forum and keep my DJ here up-to-date, relative to the one I keep offline. As MoonageDaydream suggested, the threads for lucid tasks and the book club can also be good ways to focus your efforts in general towards lucid dreaming -- keeps you thinking about LDing after all.

      I don't know if I would describe your behaviour pattern as immaturity; I guess it does takes some measure of maturity to realise when we're being immature, but I would say that you're just very eager to experience lucid dreaming in full again so I guess there's some degree of impulsiveness there. Truly, I can't speak for everyone, though I think sometimes it's easy to burn ourselves out from doing something if we're very enthusiastic about it but we're not getting to the results we'd like to see and sometimes we just get busy with other things anyway. Just don't put yourself down for it, that's what's important I think.

      In any case, good luck with your renewed lucid dreaming journey.
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      Quote Originally Posted by maxmin099 View Post
      Hello dreamers, this is a late introduction

      Lucid dreaming is not a new thing for me, I am into it almost for 10 years. What is the result? Only 1 real lucid dream (long, highly vivid) and a few lucidish experiences. That one LD was a DILD, thanks to a reality check I was doing those days. It was 8 years ago. It was a huge experience for me, I can still remember every detail of it. It was so good that I probably felt that it will never happen again.

      Yes, I am an impulsive guy. Some times of the year I start practicing so hard, it lasts for a few days. I mostly try WILD to get the result instantly, with high effort. No, it doesn't work.

      Now with the start of 2021, I am starting again. I will not hurry up. I will not expect results in 1 or 2 days. This is not the way I am but I will try.

      I have an idea. I know that a partner can stabilize my effort. Since I have no one to share my work and experiences on LD, after some time I'm losing my motivation.
      Who is with me? Be my guide, be my partner, be my coach...
      Ah also, if there are people like me, with can also do this as a group, with at least one disciplined person.
      I'm open for your suggestions.

      P.S: Maybe I described myself not correctly, maybe it's not impulsiveness but immaturity.
      I can help you as I worked with Michael Raduga as the head of the Phase Management Department at the OOBE Research Center a few years ago.

      Coming from Raduga's School of Out-of-body Travel, we regard ecsomatic experiences such as lucid dreaming as OOBEs as products of a hybrid brain condition—at around the 40Hz bandwidth of activity—that combines wakefulness and dreaming, which we term the 'phase' or 'phase state'.

      In essence, the umbrella term 'phase state'=LD/OOBE/AP, is used pragmatically to simply help as many people enter the state regardless of their preconceived ideas or beliefs about the phenomena. You can download The Phase guidebook by Michael Raduga for free (alternatively, download the Phaser app) where you will find everything you need to really home in on your lucid dreaming practice.

      Your will learn induction techniques and methods of entering the phase, with the guidebook, as well as the concepts of 'deepening' and 'maintaining' the state—if you wish to bring maximum high-definition to that colourful phantom world and prolong the experience as much as possible.

      I am also here to coach you in helping you to reach that altered state of mind and manage it diligently. If you prefer to use the popular term 'lucid dream', it's fine by me. My goal is to help you, so, if you have any questions, fire away.

      Here's an example of how we record our experiences:

      Date: 22/12/2020
      Method of entry: dream consciousness
      Bedtime: 2am
      Awakening: 8.30am
      Return to bed: 8.40am
      Attempt: successful
      Phase experience: parallel reality school

      DREAM STATE:

      I'm a primary school pupil and I am sat in a little rickshaw with a boy I took to be my best friend. He is trying to help me wheel this thing through the school's corridors and classrooms, but I want him to sit back and enjoy the ride while I make the effort.

      The ride now has enough impetus to roll by itself while me and my little friend sit back and relax. We are laughing because we're evading the school's authorities and, simultaneously, I get the impression that we were supposed to be attending a class. The scholastic adults nab us and we are marched into the headteacher's spacious office.

      The man in charge is a tall, middle-aged man donning circular specs and a thick, grey moustache. Despite staring at me with a condescending air or superiority, I start coming to my senses; I'm an adult, I don't go to school, and as lucidity increases with memories of real life, I even glance at my child-friend with a smirk as if to let him know that everything is under control

      PHASE STATE:

      'I wish to see Christopher Hitchens!' I demand from the headteacher. 'I want a lesson from Mr. Hitchens---not you!' By now, other characters seem to have joined us. A couple of men wearing lab coats stand on either side of the towering headteacher, who leers at me and finally scoffs: 'What do you think this is?'

      Slightly taken aback by his response, but remaining defiant in my newfound lucidity, I riposte, 'This is a dream! I'm dreaming all of this and I demand to see Mr. Hitchens!'

      The headteacher sneers as he cocks his grey head to the side. 'He thinks this is a dream ...'

      Laughter resounds in the office. 'What?!' I exclaim as two middle-aged women wearing tunics grip my arms. I notice a couple of figures marching a little boy out of the room. I think of recalling the plan of action for lucid dreaming but the women are rubbing my chest and begin to lift me off the floor. Other urges begin to emerge and I inexorably abandon even the idea of summoning Christopher Hitchens.

      warning: sexually explicit (I feel like I should alert members in some are too young or are sensitive to this content for some other reason)

      It feels so real and I'm getting aroused. The woman holding me to my right unzips my trousers and exposes my penis, which looks small and is completely enveloped by her hand. She masturbates me frantically. It doesn't take me long to climax and semen is ejected everywhere. I see people sitting on the floor, watching as they get sprayed by my protracted ejaculation.

      'I'm sorry! I'm so sorry!'

      Disgust and embarrassment almost kill my sexual excitement but the women who stimulate my child-like body reassure me with words like, 'Don't worry, dear!' and the other chuckles before stating that 'they don't mind'. They put me down and I notice another tunic-wearing woman smiling seductively at me as she stands by the door through which they had taken my friend. I am covering my mouth with my hands in disbelief before I wake up.

      WAKING STATE:

      I check my underwear and there is no evidence of having ejaculated in real life. But there is an erection. I am still aroused and my wife wakes up. Luckily for me, she is also horny and we make love.


      As you can see, I make distinctions between the states: 'waking/dream/phase'.
      Last edited by Summerlander; 01-11-2021 at 10:59 PM. Reason: Additional
      THE PHASE = waking consciousness during sleep hybridisation at 40Hz of brainwave activity conducive to lucid dreaming and autoscopy.

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      To improve your predisposition for out-of-body experiences and lucid dreaming, here are five tips mentioned in Zhanna Zhunusova's webinar 'The Phase: 5 Tools to start'. Zhunusova is a Project Elijah curator; this project is currently doing research on lucid dreaming and publishing scientific papers in The International Journal of Dream Research.

      1) Dream reconstruction: upon awakening, lie still and relaxed for a minute as you attempt to remember the dream plot. Pleasant memories tend to come effortlessly and, as you play around with dream recall, more segments will come to mind which may or may not relate to what was initially remembered. We tend to remember dreams in reverse. Recalling dreams should be an enjoyable process and not forced; it is a process of delicate reconstruction and it should be fun. More may be remembered later, without effort, during the day. This exercise increases the probability of dream consciousness occurring.

      2) Reality checking: Is it real or not? Am I dreaming? Did I get up for real or is this a false awakening? Looking at your reflection in a mirror may increase lucidity as it tends to drive away distracting mental chatter and promotes thoughts about aspects of yourself: What do I look like? What am I feeling? As the experience of one's reflection promotes self-integration, there will be more focus and the phase will be deeper. The mirror moment as a reality check prompts questions such as, 'Do I look normal?' or 'Are there any physical anomalies?' You may also touch the mirror to see if anything unusual happens.

      3) Floating state: This is where your mind fluctuates between wakefulness, dreaming and unconscious sleep, as though it rapidly visits all the stages of sleep. It is also known as 'microsleep', which can be characterised by perceived lapses in consciousness, thus mimicking narcolepsy—which can propel you into the phase state. This state is particularly favourable when it comes to employing the direct method of entering the phase, which novices should avoid as it is quite difficult precisely because the attempt is made with no prior sleep; advanced practitioners can try in the evening or even before bedtime! Focusing on breathing with your eyes shut, as one does in meditation, can help one to relax and eventually achieve an out-of-body experience or enter a lucid dream environment. Don't try this for longer than 20 minutes and do not get frustrated with failure. The direct method is the hardest! And remember that your predisposition to reach the phase can improve with practice. Just relax and stare into the darkness behind your eyelids and hypnagogic sensations may manifest or you may try some visualisation techniques. It's just a matter of time before you experience a shift in awareness.

      4) Techniques training: gravitation/vibrations—getting pulled by an imaginary magnet; falling through the bed; phantom-wiggling; rotation of the body; levitation; simply getting up, etc. These techniques can help you to separate from the body. Moving the phantom body can feel as realistic as moving the real body!

      5) Expanded sensor-motor visualisation: This is where you visualise realistic sensations such as touching during your communication with objects in the phantom world of the phase state and imagine how it will feel—prepping you for what might happen after a separation from the body. This is about relaxing in a meditative state and focusing on your mind in order to expand it, meaning, expanding imagination into slight visualisations and deepening your mental contents further into high-definition realism.
      THE PHASE = waking consciousness during sleep hybridisation at 40Hz of brainwave activity conducive to lucid dreaming and autoscopy.

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