Shemales

**DeeryTheDeer** · 07-02-2011 02:05 PM

It's really quite simple, actually. If you're a gay man, you're attracted to MEN, not manly girls. If you're a lesbian, you're attracted to WOMEN, not girly men. Why would you be attracted to a certain type of opposite sex if you're gay? It's a waste of time, and a rather ignorant heteronormative assumption. Not everything that doesn't come from the clean cut 1950s gender stereotypes is latently homosexual or somehow "wrong". It's like saying that men who are interested in young women (as young as 18) are inclined to be pedophiles. I'm one of those girls who likes feminine guys (also masculine guys once in a while), but I have no interest in women, especially in a romantic sense. That black (blasian) guy you posted actually looks beautiful and feminine and well as being muscular. It's his eyes, really. And his smile.

I feel like every other guy brings this subject up once in a while because they always seem to be threatened by this trend of girls liking feminine guys. Maybe it's because of social conditioning for boys to act all manly and be MEN, or else they're utterly worthless and society has contempt for them. So when they encounter girls who are attracted to the opposite of what they've been pressured to be, this confuses or enrages them. I don't know, maybe that's a crap theory. Still, I'm puzzled by how poorly guys seem to take this reality, and I'd like more insight into the reasons behind this.

As for the answer to your question, it's because of our modern feminist society. Back in the olden days, women were interested in a man who would protect her and take care of her, like good old traditional gender roles. This is also true in most parts of the world where it's still dangerous to live and strong men are needed. In our modern society where we don't need strong men to take care of us, they no longer become an asset and start becoming an unecessary threat. Women become more interested in their intelligence or caring qualities than their macho protecting qualities.

I know I certainly don't want to get in a relationship with a guy who seems like he might rape me or beat the shit out of me. It's unfair, but the more expressive and open (tending to be feminine) a face is, the more likely you are to feel like they even have a soul, and that you can connect with them.

Back at an old menial job I had, one of my co-workers talked about her boyfriend, a big muscly body builder. She said she wasn't normally attracted to that type, but he was very loving and they had a nice relationship apparently. They were planning to get married and everything, they even set the date. I thought to myself, "Well yeah, that's not really my thing, but if he's that nice, I can see how she'd feel that way", imagining myself in the situation.

Unfortunately, complications arose and they broke up and called off the marriage. She was obviously pretty sad about that. Then she starts talking about drama, where this boyfriend is getting obsessive and clingy and is trying to get back in touch with her through her friends, but her friends are more or less kicking him to the curb because he's a nutcase. Then he gets dangerous (aggressive phone calls, as far as I remember and wanting to get to her apartment) and she tells me how she's notified the police and is afraid that the people in her apartment, even this one guy is too weak to stop him from barging in and killing them all. Then I think to myself, "Well yeah, I saw that coming a mile away. That only cements my disliking of macho guys."

Take that as you will. By the way, my (physical) tastes in men range fairly wide I think, from Elijah Wood to Jeff Bridges... I think the older I get, the less I'm interested in overtly feminine or young (I've NEVER liked Justin Beiber), but they should have at least expressive, soulful eyes.

**tommo** · 07-02-2011 03:07 PM

It's been proven that females, even if they are attracted to "feminine" or less masculine looking guys, are more likely to cheat when they are ovulating.
70% of those that cheat will be having sex with someone who is more masculine. i.e Wide jaw, protruding brow bones, broad shoulders etc.

We should clear that up too. Masculine does not mean muscly.

There are obvious masculine features such as those I mentioned ^^^^ (Wide jaw, protruding brow bones, broad shoulders etc.)

Feminine qualities are obviously the lack of these features, and these feminine men can still be muscly and rage happy. It's just much less likely.

Also, the reason women are more likely to cheat with masculine guys while they're ovulating is because those men usually have higher testosterone levels which means greater fertility.
Even though it really doesn't matter much, coz feminine guys obviously have enough to produce progeny, it's just an evolutionary impulse for most women.

**Xox** · 07-02-2011 04:57 PM

I'll just give my personal perspective on this. I think fuller, pouty lips and dark lashes etc are universally attractive. They appear more often in females than they do males. If a guy has full lips, dark fringe-y lashes, he just looks more attractive.

I can't say I perceive him to be different because he has soulful eyes or a pretty mouth. He's physically more attractive to me, but obviously not necessarily. I don't think they are any more compatible with me or more approachable - whatever you want to call it. I don't attribute traits, even loosely, because of the way they come across (physically).

**sloth** · 07-02-2011 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by Spartiate

Quit that hippy shit. Humans are dimorphic, deal with it.

Unless they are a hermaphrodite, right?

**nina** · 07-02-2011 06:06 PM

First of all, I do not find ANY of those "pretty" boys attractive, and I find all of the handsome guys to be attractive. However there are plenty of much better examples of "pretty" boys that I have been attracted to, so I will respond.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

I guess my point is why do supposed heterosexual women/girls like gentlemen who so much resemble themselves? Do they feel like they are getting the best of both worlds? Feminine kind of pretty but still have a penis to get the job done..

I think you've got it wrong. It's not that the men actually resemble women, it's the androgyny...which is a combination of masculine and feminine features. To me it seems incorrect and slightly absurd to say that a guy resembles a woman or that a woman is attracted to this sort of man because she is really attracted to women...unless the guy is a transvestite or transgender etc.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

Is every girl that's attracted to gentlemen like the ones listed in the first bit.. really just attracted to women?

No.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

I'm just picking on girls really because it's more noticeable among girls (this look like a girl look being hot amongst supposed straight females), whereas tomboyish dressing and looks are more accepted.

Once again, it's not "look like a girl". I'm not attracted to men that look[ like women or men in drag. I am sometimes attracted to androgyny though, and I wouldn't be surprised if we eventually evolve into a more androgynous species? Maybe.

**Spartiate** · 07-02-2011 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by sloth

Unless they are a hermaphrodite, right?

**Jeff777** · 07-02-2011 07:31 PM

Great responses. Thanks guys. Will probably comment or ask more questions when I get back from work. Though I don't have much left to ask.

**StonedApe** · 07-02-2011 08:41 PM

Because normal guys are ugly, duh?

**[SomeGuy]** · 07-02-2011 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by Spartiate

Quit that hippy shit. Humans are dimorphic, deal with it.

Exactly. That's like saying that I'm black, even though I'm clearly not. You can't just say because one wants to be called a female, they are one.

**~~DeletePlease~~** · 07-02-2011 11:45 PM

Damn it, SomeGuy; don't let anyone tell you what you can and can't be. Be whatever you want. If you want to be black, I totally respect that and support you. Now...

**Shaelyn** · 07-03-2011 12:16 AM

I can't really add much to this discussion because I am in fact attracted to all sexes. For me it's not about a certain type. I really don't have one. I fall in love with the heart and not the physical features or what they have to offer in their undies. I recently read a few articles that say recent decades of birth control have a strong connection to women's growing attraction for feminine men. I found this really interesting and I am sure many of you have caught glimpses of said controversy. Uh, and I would like to say Jeff that a feminine man vs. a women with boobs, curves, and a vagina are two very different things. I would much rather see a busty women stripping on a pole than a feminine man.

**[SomeGuy]** · 07-03-2011 05:55 AM

Originally Posted by GavinGill

Damn it, SomeGuy; don't let anyone tell you what you can and can't be. Be whatever you want. If you want to be black, I totally respect that and support you. Now...

I really wish I was black though. I put my team on my back today and brought the game from 6-0 to 11-10 with a mad run of dunks.

Originally Posted by Shaelyn

I would much rather see a busty women stripping on a pole

True

**tommo** · 07-03-2011 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by [SomeGuy]

Exactly. That's like saying that I'm black, even though I'm clearly not. You can't just say because one wants to be called a female, they are one.

I wish that you called yourself one of those people who keep the discussion relevant to the thread. Go revive the other thread where this was being discussed if you still think you're correct.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

Great responses. Thanks guys. Will probably comment or ask more questions when I get back from work. Though I don't have much left to ask.

Surrrrre.... Just like you posted your sins in the I've Been Bad thread after you got back from work, right

**Jeff777** · 07-03-2011 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by tommo

Surrrrre.... Just like you posted your sins in the I've Been Bad thread after you got back from work, right

Hehe, you have a point. I'll address that point when I get off work.. sometime.. in the future. xP

**Tara** · 07-03-2011 06:15 AM

I want Doug's brain inside of me.

**no-Name** · 07-03-2011 06:16 AM

fuck the system and thank you tara and stone dape!

**[SomeGuy]** · 07-03-2011 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by tommo

I wish that you called yourself one of those people who keep the discussion relevant to the thread. Go revive the other thread where this was being discussed if you still think you're correct.

Dude, chill. Wasn't aware there was another thread. And normally, I do try to keep my discussion relevant to the thread. Let's not derail this any more, PM me if you want to discuss my forum tactics

Anyway, I think that people can be attracted to qualities representative of their own gender due to familiarity. I don't think it has any link to homosexuality, just another spin of "birds of a feather flock together". Even still, there are some guys that I'm honestly attracted to, but I don't think I'm homosexual or bisexual. I think I just know what qualities I can appreciate genuinely.

**Jeff777** · 07-03-2011 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by [SomeGuy]

Dude, chill. Wasn't aware there was another thread. And normally, I do try to keep my discussion relevant to the thread. Let's not derail this any more, PM me if you want to discuss my forum tactics

Anyway, I think that people can be attracted to qualities representative of their own gender due to familiarity. I don't think it has any link to homosexuality, just another spin of "birds of a feather flock together". Even still, there are some guys that I'm honestly attracted to, but I don't think I'm homosexual or bisexual. I think I just know what qualities I can appreciate genuinely.

What qualities do you appreciate in guys that makes them attractive to you?

**~~DeletePlease~~** · 07-03-2011 07:19 AM

A big dick.

amirite?

**[SomeGuy]** · 07-03-2011 07:27 AM

@Gavin: ...shush. No.

@Jeff: It depends. Generally strong guys, but not mad muscles. Just enough to show that he's active. He's gotta be a chill guy. Facial structure is important too. I'm not sure how to say this without sounding...well I'll just say it. So far, I've only been actually more or less attracted to black dudes. So he's gotta be black.

But I don't think I'm bisexual because I'm not interested in any kind of sexual behavior.

**dakotahnok** · 07-03-2011 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by erible

Erible I told you NOT to post the picture of me!!!

**Zhaylin** · 07-04-2011 02:55 AM

I'm sexually attracted to both men and women, but for religious reasons, I've stuck with men for the most part. I don't have a "physical" type though. I go for personality. Soulful eyes are a definite must.
Like (I think it was) Erible said, personal experience has made me stereotype certain types of people. I've never gone for muscular or conceited men or conceited women.
Then again, I don't "go for" any TYPE of person until I know them. I might admire a person as if a painting, but I'm not sexually attracted to anyone until I know their personality.

**Xaqaria** · 07-04-2011 03:17 AM

To be honest, it sounds like the entire purpose of this thread is to get someone to unwittingly admit to the old "all women are bisexual" claim. I think erible ended the thread with her pointed and concise answer. Men with less masculine features (or more feminine features) are more likely to be the soft sensitive type that will help you pick out underwear. (some) Women dig that shit.

**nina** · 07-04-2011 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

I think erible ended the thread with her pointed and concise answer. Men with less masculine features (or more feminine features) are more likely to be the soft sensitive type that will help you pick out underwear. (some) Women dig that shit.

Well, I disagree. That whole "soft sensitive" thing is not really attractive to me at all. I don't need a guy to help me pick out my underwear...that's just...weird. I would never ask a guy to run out and buy me a box of tampons either.

I like the androgynous look because it seems more unique, cold, and aloof...which are all things I'm apparently attracted to.