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      Waking Lucidity

      Once you've realized that you're dreaming, you are free to do anything you can imagine, right?

      But what about once you've truly realized that you're living?

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      Yep - you can do pretty much anything you want. Of course, the difference being in dreams physical laws can be bent and broken.

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      BUT WHAT IF DREAM LAWS CAN BE BENT AND BROKEN IN REALITY
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      Thought you were Seroquel for a sec ^

      Although he probably would have only posted the gif without words.

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      You mean realize that you aren't living, that this is a dream. We already assume we are living.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut View Post
      You mean realize that you aren't living, that this is a dream. We already assume we are living.
      Yes i don't get this post either.
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      I think this relates to the Lucid living idea where we turn off our awareness during most activities, like driving. I drive about 13 miles/30 minutes each way, and I get to work or get home, and I realize I have very little recollection of it because I am so unattentive.
      Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the law, love under will.

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      Quote Originally Posted by hathor28 View Post
      Yes i don't get this post either.
      In our unlucidity, we assume we are these living beings. Lucidly seeing, we see that our identity is a dream character and is an illusion. This body that appears in my experience is just a biological machine with no free-will doing what it does based on cause and effect. The "life" I think is isolated to this body is really the container for the whole experience and everything that appears in it, it is not isolated to this dream character body, but is the "life" and "awareness" of everything that appears in this dream of waking life on planet Earth. If you can look at a cat or a dog and see that the life that is in it is really the life that you think is "yours" behind your eyes. It is all the same field of awareness/life, and it isn't only behind the eyes. It IS the eyes, it is the nose, it is the dog, it is the cat, it is your friend, it is your mother, it is the table, it is the chair, it is the sky, it is the trees, etc.... This is all a dream and the life/awareness is inherent to the whole dream, not isolated to this or that dream character. The whole thing is only MIND and nothing else. The light of the sun is just a part of the brilliant light of the MIND. This body is just an organism that appears as an experience in the greater experience. Life and death is a dream. There is no end to this awareness. Memories are a dream also. This awareness is timeless. Time is a dream. All sensations are dreams. That doesn't mean that they are bad. But if we think that any sensation, any experience, is "real" then we are not lucid.

      This waking lucidity and the awakened MIND is called many things in different traditions. In zen sometimes it is called the "Bright Mind". The Brilliant Light of the Mind. Any thoughts, desires, concepts, or striving for any goal, all hides the MIND's brilliant light. If we realize that right now in this moment there is only MIND and nothing else, then we realize that there has never been anything other than this MIND dreaming. This life is a dream, that life is a dream, past lives are a dream, future lives are a dream, time is a dream, etc... Nothing is any more real or less real, it is all dreams. Only this MIND exists. And it is dreaming. REALIZE it is dreaming!!! REALIZE this is a dream! Lol.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Araishu View Post

      BUT WHAT IF DREAM LAWS CAN BE BENT AND BROKEN IN REALITY
      This is advanced stuff. First become "enlightened" (waking lucidity) and then just for fun, you can experiment bending laws in your body. Such as working your way up to fasting for 40 days with no food or water (something that science says is impossible, but is done quite often). Or melting snow with your body heat as you sit naked in the snow draped in freezing wet towels. (Another scientific impossibility that also is done quite often). In fact, this one seems to be the gate to many mind over matter phenomena.

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      no i mean i don't get the OPs question lol
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      Change turns reality into hallucination. No matter what we choose to do with our lives, we die the same way.

      Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.


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      Look how this guy died: In total lucidity, lotus position, hands still in meditation mudra. 223532_600911563256501_205315759_n.jpg

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      Waking lucidity can be achieved, meditation, or drugs. Its easier with drugs though

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      But you can go farther without them. They are like koans, a means to punch brief holes through the clouds and catch a glimmer of the sky behind them.

      Granted I owe a lot of gratitude to drugs all the same.

      But you can achieve "waking lucidity" simply by contemplating the fact that you'll die for long enough. After all, what really makes a dream? The fact that you wake, and it ends. And because it ended completely, we decide it wasn't real. It was instead a hallucination. Well, life ends, too. And we take from it the same that we take from a dream.
      Last edited by Original Poster; 03-12-2013 at 08:27 PM.
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      Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.


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      Psychedelic drugs are good. However in my years of experimenting with them even though I was face to face with lucid awareness, I never recognized it. I thought that it was the effect of the drugs and not my true nature. That is what lucidity is, is to recognize the true nature.

      Death is important to look at. It is coming and there is no escape. We are lucky to be humans. What are the odds of being a human? Very rare odds. As far as I can tell, humans are the only organisms capable of becoming lucid. This is our only chance to free ourselves from illusion. Is there a reality or anything beyond death? Beyond this dream of life? Does this dream have a dreamer that will wake up after this dream is over? Or is it immediately followed by another dream?

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      Death is intersting to look at, ever experienced ego death?

      I have, its incredible for a period of time I ceased to exist. I was part of something else something much bigger than my body, my mind and my ideals. Crazy stuff.

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