Thread: Lucid supplements and failed attempts (help request)

FryingMan - I stress too much over this shit and get frustrated because that I waisted another night even though I've been trying soo hard. I get what your saying and I definatly need to have a healthier lifestyle and that it can be more beneficial than lucid aids. The strange thing about Lucid dreaming is that I am so determined to have them that I am willing to change my life around and I am hoping that It would help me get over depression.

Nfri - I might go pick up L-theanin, seems promising since its in green tea and I've only heard good things about it.

Voldmer - Idk about 5-htp because of the side effects, but from what I found on the net St. Johns Wort is a miracle vitamin for depression and if it can help for that as well as improve my chances of having LD's then its also worth a try.

Originally Posted by BobRoss

FryingMan - I stress too much over this shit and get frustrated because that I waisted another night even though I've been trying soo hard. I get what your saying and I definatly need to have a healthier lifestyle and that it can be more beneficial than lucid aids. The strange thing about Lucid dreaming is that I am so determined to have them that I am willing to change my life around and I am hoping that It would help me get over depression.

Nfri - I might go pick up L-theanin, seems promising since its in green tea and I've only heard good things about it.

Voldmer - Idk about 5-htp because of the side effects, but from what I found on the net St. Johns Wort is a miracle vitamin for depression and if it can help for that as well as improve my chances of having LD's then its also worth a try.

I too used to stress about "missing another night," and all that ended up accomplishing was weeks of insomnia. I think this is somewhat analogous to getting back to sleep: there's the paradox of intent: right at the moment where you stop "trying to sleep", that's when you fall asleep. It's not a perfect analogy with LDing, you *do* need to "try" to LD, but you can't force yourself to LD, and holding stress about LDing is not the same thing as "trying to LD." By "trying to LD" I mean the obvious things: WBTB, the occasional WILD attempts, setting intention at night, meditation, working seriously on dream recall, dream journaling, spending time on LD forums, reading LD books, reading other people's dream journals, perhaps dream yoga exercises and most importantly, day practice.

You have to take a long view approach: Your brain must be made to be more and more compatible with lucid dreaming. Every day that you spend doing awareness/mindfulness exercises, you're putting another chunk of awareness into the LDing bank which will earn interest and you'll reap the rewards in the future. Be absolutely confident of this. It has been shown time and time again to be true. Some people are closer to when that LD interest earning account matures, some farther. But you absolutely do not earn interest if you take your capital (your attention) out of the account (you stop trying). And then it will take even longer to reach the goal if you start again.

So enjoy the process, particularly enjoy all your dreams that you recall, non-lucids can be really fun and funny and interesting as well. Always reach for more recall. And (here's the hard part during dry spells), stay positive! *Know* that you will lucid dream, and that they will come more and more frequent. Just keep reading and working on it assiduously. This forum is a great place of support and camaraderie along the LD path.

Try joining the next LD competition! Magical things happen during the competitions, people get huge spikes to their LD frequency very often, and dream recall as well. My two best LD streaks ever (7 in 15 days, and 7 in 10 days) happened during the competitions. (There's a lesson in there about the success of goal settings and motivations, as LaBerge mentions).

Now, to cultivate the competition mindset all the time, that's my goal!

Thanks alot for your encouraging and helpful posts. This has been my first thread on Dreamviews though I've visited this site ever since I found out about lucid dreaming and most of my understanding came from here. You guys have proven to be a very insightful and caring community. I do have fun with my dreams when I have them since they are good topics for conversations and mine can get very bizarre and hilarious.

Originally Posted by FryingMan

Try joining the next LD competition! Magical things happen during the competitions, people get huge spikes to their LD frequency very often, and dream recall as well. My two best LD streaks ever (7 in 15 days, and 7 in 10 days) happened during the competitions. (There's a lesson in there about the success of goal settings and motivations, as LaBerge mentions).

What did you mean by LD competitions, are there such things and how do you compete?

Originally Posted by BobRoss

What did you mean by LD competitions, are there such things and how do you compete?

For example:

http://www.dreamviews.com/general-lu...read-17-a.html

You have to watch for the announcements. They usually run every other month for 2 weeks, so the next one should start up in the beginning of May. Learning to use the "What's New" button to keep track of new things on the site is essential! Also subscribing to interesting threads keeps you up to date on the action on the site. There is so much good stuff on this site but sometimes you really have to dig to find it all.