Creating a new color is impossible. Our eyes can only percieve such a set color range, only a few million colors. We can't create colors in our dream world and institute them into reality. You might be able to say, when I enter the next room I'll see a new color but when you wake up it'll probably be a color you've seen before. Or when you try to remember what it looked like, come up with nothing. Then there's the all important question: How would you describe it? I think you can equate this to the asking DCs to tell you the funniest joke ever. You'll hear it and think it's hilarious but when you wake up it's just nonsense. However, yes you can persuade yourself while dreaming that you saw a new color but in reality you didn't. |
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I love how this has turned into a philosophical discussion. |
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I've gone so far as to take away all of my surroundings and build them anew, but the strangest thing I've had happens so far was finding an object in one of my lucid dreams I could in no way control. I would change scense and try to take things appart and it remained out of my reach. This isn't new but it hasn't happened in years. When I first started Lucid Dreaming I would be unable to move many things then fewer and fewer were immobile but this object has been there from the start. If I bodily try to touch it in my dream I can here it saying no several times before I wake. |
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Last edited by Digital.Totem; 03-30-2008 at 08:52 AM.
I did this, sort-of I knew what you were thinking about. So I used a little stimulation for it. I watched Stephen Kings Dreamcatcher. You know the scene where the guy is running around in his own mind hiding thoughts and memories from the parasite. |
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Last edited by Digital.Totem; 03-31-2008 at 09:20 PM.
I will have to differ in opinion about the "you can't create another colour" idea. |
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Light, all light, IS the color spectrum. There would have to be new light for new colors to exist, but I think it's like a law of physics that red blue and yellow are the only colors. |
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no wait, I'm wrong, or theres more at least |
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Actually, you're thinking of color pigments, like paint. What you really mean is RGB, red green and blue are the 3 primary colors that can combine to create other colors, in the physical world. There is also the secondary, the cyan, magenta, and....yellow? I forget the third. |
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Last edited by schematics; 04-01-2008 at 04:59 PM.
Only three colours? You realize that other animals see our colour spectrum in addition to some other ones? I mean, really, do you think that we have the highest vision spectrum? Nope. |
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That's just another way of saying, how can anyone "know" anything??? No one is 100% certain of anything, but we can get close enough. Maybe they know because they can see neural activity in the visual cortex of animals in response to wavelengths outside our visible spectrum. |
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Humans are limited creatures, what we don't understand or think possible a lot of us just seem to write off as impossible. Yet just look at all the technological and developmental advancements we have made, the understanding we have gained over centuries of research and development culminating in a single event, the gaining of knowledge previously unknown. |
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~I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.~
M0rp8ix's twisted reality
360 Degree Vision: Only a few times; it's kind of hard so I never really worked at it. Basically, it's seeing in all directions at the same time, even above and below. |
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DV Buddy: BlueKat
Yeah, pretty much what I'm saying basically. We don't have receptors to perceive energy outside our visible spectrum, but that's not to say that somehow we might be able to be equipped with receptors that can perceive energy outside the visible spectrum. It's already been shown that some animals and insects perceive outside our visible spectrum. |
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im tellling you, creating a new color is impossible. i dont know how naiya did it "thousands of times" i wanna know what colors she invented |
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Spitfire, colors don't exist in the first place. We only see color because our brains translate what our physical senses tell us. Colors are a perception. They are subjective. Same with sound---what exists is the frequency/vibration. The sound itself does not exist until it is actually perceived and translated into a sound by the mind. |
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Last edited by Naiya; 04-03-2008 at 12:34 AM.
DV Buddy: BlueKat
Naiya, I don't think you actually imagined or dreamt new colors. You probably felt like you did, but didn't actually. Until we have the capability to perceive energy outside the visual spectrum, there is no way to actually imagine it like you would imagine the color red or blue. |
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You're still thinking that dreams are perceived by our physical eyes. They aren't. They're perceived by our minds. So again, your argument is just that you don't think anyone can imagine something they've never seen before. Which imo, is more of a philosophical question that has no correct answer. |
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DV Buddy: BlueKat
Ok, sorry to break up the party on colors, but you can't imagine new colors, you can percieve previously imperceptible sprectra, but so far as I know EM only really goes from radio to gama. There are animals that cans see from infrared to ultraviolet, but that is the full range perceptible by any known organic being. It takes some prety imaginative science to see all of the EM Spectra, and even then it's only rationalized into our percievable spectrum. There, no such thing as new colors, just ones you haven't seen. |
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Have you not looked at any of the other post, it would be impossible to correctly describe the new colors to you because you have not experienced them first hand. if he did try it would make it sound like it was just a mix of other colors by comparing it to them then you will go but that just sounds like this and this mixed together. |
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~I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.~
M0rp8ix's twisted reality
I realize that visible light occupies such tiny part as far as waves go, there's visible light waves, gamma rays, x-rays, radio waves, micro waves, infrared waves etc. In fact I saw on some show that visble light waves occupy such a tiny part of all the different types of waves that if if were represented by a movie reel of film going from Los Angeles to Alaska, visible light would be one singe frame. THis blew my mind, I don't remember if this was on the Discovery Channel or History Channel but it's pretty amazing. |
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course I know dreams aren't created through stimuli taken in through our eyes, as our eyes are closed when we sleep . The stimuli comes from internal input, I know that (not the mind though, the mind is more of an abstract thing, it's probably better to say that dreams are combination from internal input in the brain). And, I know we can imagine things we haven't seen before, hell right now I'm imagining a giant tree where the roots are made of human arms and the leaves are long spiky things. But even that is a combination of things that already exist. Forms and objects that exist in our perception of the universe. We can't actually imagine or dream up new colors (and remember, a new color means just that you're perceving out side the visual spectrum, so into UV, x-ray or whatever) because we don't have the capabilities to perceive them. I just don't know how to explain this any better. You can "feel" like you see them, just like when you wake up from a dream and "felt" like you heard the most beautiful music in the world but can't quite remember what it sounded like.... |
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Dude! We know that's what you're telling us. It's the fourth time you say that. We get it. You're in a cell that you've created for yourself; we, on the other hand, are either gullible fools or liars. But these opinions don't really add much to the thread. And no one can describe the colors to you. If you're not even open to the possibility that seeing/experiencing new colors is possible, why bother asking someone to describe the ones he or she has seen? |
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Last edited by SourCherryBoy; 04-04-2008 at 05:57 PM.
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