When did I say eating meat was immoral? I support both sides of this debate. (See post #132) [obscenities deleted] |
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What kinds of feelings do plants have? Do they experience pain? |
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157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.
Women and rhythm section first - Jaco Pastorious
When did I say eating meat was immoral? I support both sides of this debate. (See post #132) [obscenities deleted] |
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Last edited by MindGames; 01-11-2011 at 04:00 AM. Reason: further explanation
I don't believe it is irrelevant. You don't exist in a vacuum and neither does your income. If everyone gave up meat tomorrow there would be a surplus of 9/10ths of the grain production subsidy budget that could go to other social projects, or lower your taxes (thereby increasing your disposable income). They are inextricably linked. |
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Last edited by Sisyphus50; 01-11-2011 at 04:33 AM.
I watched that video and I have to admit that it made me think about changing my carnivorous ways.. I mean I think we humans were designed to eat meat, but not when it was stuffed in a small cage for it's whole life, injected with chemicals, and suffering until the day it was ready to be shipped off and made ready to eat. That's just cruel. Maybe if the obesity rate in this country wasn't increasing at such a fast pace(or even increasing at all) then we wouldn't have as many problems with this. |
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I dream a lot, need not be asleep.
I commend you for doing so! Well done! |
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Last edited by Sisyphus50; 01-11-2011 at 05:09 AM.
Humans have the capacity to consume both meat and vegetables. Therefore it is the individual's choice as to what they want to eat. It is completely natural for animals to eat other animals, and if an individual has the animalistic desire to eat meat, it is natural and therefore completely fine for him to do so. |
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"Get my Dream-Pecker Wet" |
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I stomp on your ideas.
I haven't missed the scope of the debate. In fact, you fail to realize that allowing yourself to divulge in the desires naturally coded into your DNA is morally acceptable if the individual chooses to view himself as an animalistic being. This debate concerns the morality of eating meat, and if somebody views it as completely natural to eat meat, then based on that belief, it is not wrong to do so. It is no more right to eat a plant than to eat an animal considering the animal was slaughtered quickly just as is done in nature by other animals. The slaughterhouses are at fault when they choose to make the animals suffer more than the amount of suffering found in nature, and that is out of the consumers' control until they start petitioning for the better treatment of animals waiting to be butchered. |
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Human aggression and the desire to dominate our local tribe are also innate in our (male) DNA, but that doesn't make it moral to beat our wives and kill our rivals, whether one chooses to view himself or herself as an animalistic being or not. |
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Last edited by Sisyphus50; 01-11-2011 at 06:11 AM.
I believe it is completely natural for me to murder people. And also to fuck grandmothers. But I don't do these things. One for moral reasons, one for aesthetic reasons. |
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Last edited by StonedApe; 01-11-2011 at 07:05 AM.
157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.
Women and rhythm section first - Jaco Pastorious
Indulge me for a moment with a thought experiment: |
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Last edited by Sisyphus50; 01-11-2011 at 07:21 AM.
Certainly five minutes of bleeding out after a life of freedom is better than five years of never being able to turn around, to see sky, all the time breathing in the stink of your own shit and eating treated by-products. |
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Last edited by Abra; 01-11-2011 at 05:36 PM.
Abraxas
Originally Posted by OldSparta
Consideration for the rights of all conscious beings with respect to their pursuit of happiness, regardless of the skin they happen to be born in. |
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Last edited by Sisyphus50; 01-11-2011 at 05:39 PM.
Abraxas
Originally Posted by OldSparta
I create a society with a maximum population of 1 billion individuals. The society is smart enough to automatically regulate this number, not through laws, but through customs. It keeps its own population in check. From there, I'd create a technology-and-science oriented civilization. One that is vastly superior to our own in this regard. After that, I'd create a law system that ensures some level of equity, but also the opportunity to be reasonably rewarded for hard work. The population, being relatively small, will have a vast supply of global resources by contrast, giving the masses a comfortable yet sustainable lifestyle. Then I would make the laws as free as possible while retaining the integrity of the system. That includes the right to eat meat. Ideally, that meat will be grown in vitro. |
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Thank you. |
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A quick Google search brings up more than a few web pages concerning lowered testosterone in vegetarian males, but to point out one in particular, this web page cites a study showing lower levels of testosterone in vegetarians versus omnivores. |
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The simplest cure to that is to educate yourself (even though its a vegan website it goes through vegetarian break downs too). In less than two weeks of casual reading you can learn everything you need to know about the vitamins your body requires and how easy they are to come by. Something as simple as a multi-vitamin every morning with breakfast will cover your ass. I personally take a B-complex and flaxseed oil capsule every morning (flaxseed with at least three meals a day), to cover me for omega-3 and B12. If you drink soy milk, B12 won't be a problem, it's loaded with the stuff. My uncle also takes an iron supp and vitamin C with his morning shake, but I'm less inclined to do so because my iron count is already high enough and I drink enough orange juice to cover my vitamin C intake. |
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Because it tastes good slapped between a bun with ketchup and a coke. |
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Is there more about this A2 milk on that website? What does the package look like, I've never seen any milk at the store that says A2, but I've never looked either. I don;t buy my own food so it doeasn't really matter now, but at some point it will. |
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157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.
Women and rhythm section first - Jaco Pastorious
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