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      Quote Originally Posted by LucidFlanders View Post
      I can't make my mind stop thinking of what i think to make myself know me and define who i am, and why i am. My usual thought pattern....owning in an FPS game, owning in hockey, having sex with all the girls, being rich. That's pretty much my mind. Is that who i am? no, it's what i am thinking about, though.
      Is that what "you" are , or "your" mind is thinking? ...or is it what the "mind" is thinking?

      Such a question is really worth chewing on...

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      Quote Originally Posted by NonDualistic View Post
      Is that what "you" are , or "your" mind is thinking? ...or is it what the "mind" is thinking?

      Such a question is really worth chewing on...

      It's what my mind is thinking, i guess you can say it's what my mind "is".
      I am not that, i am something else, i guess then you guys call that "i am false"? My mind is different then i am as my mind acts differently then my actions.

      edit- sorry, i am not really familiar with this kind of language.
      Last edited by LucidFlanders; 05-07-2008 at 04:30 AM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by LucidFlanders View Post
      It's what my mind is thinking, i guess you can say it's what my mind "is".
      I am not that, i am something else, i guess then you guys call that "i am false"? My mind is different then i am as my mind acts differently then my actions.

      edit- sorry, i am not really familiar with this kind of language.
      No need for apologies, we all travel the same path, seeing , each at our own pace. The realizations come to us in our own time as we are ready.

      I vs i

      Self vs self

      Writing, thinking, seeing as such helps bring and maintain focus for me as i am now.


      I, Self

      The mirror

      Reflecting all in front of it

      Never seeing itself

      Always being itSelf

      The Base, the Substrate

      Extending ever outward

      Beyond the mind

      Containing the mind


      i, self

      The reflection in the mirror

      Always seeing itself

      Lost within the mind

      Existant expression of Self

      Capable of seeing, knowing Self

      Seeing the mirror


      The language you speak of is something dealing with inner sight. Seeing into yourSelf, seeing beyond the confines of the mind. Poetry and metaphor expresses such best. Though for those unable to see into themselves or are unwilling, such is, or can be, a frustration to them when used by others. Make no ,mistake though, all are well capable, but such requires letting go of ingrained ideas of who and what one is.

      For me, the veil between i and I is weakening. Such has fallen briefly , for a moment , on several occasions. Each time i sit and chew on the realizations.

      Mind is not what i used to take it to be.
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      Quote Originally Posted by NonDualistic View Post
      For those up to the task, define yourself in the context of of the words "Me", "I", and "Mine" as you use them in reference to yourself.
      Take a moment and ask yourself
      Who is this I?
      Who is this me ?
      What is this I and this Me?
      Really sit and think on this, dont just throw an answer down without really contemplating this. Sit with it for a while, even a few days, and come back and give an answer. Try and give your reasons too for how and why you answered the way you did.
      Truly see it from your own intimate perspective, not just some extrapilation of some teaching. Define it as you see it personally.
      The best I can come up with is that I am this consciousness that is thinking and experiencing. The me is another word for I. The only thing separating my consciousness from another is the head it's in.
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      Consciousness doesn't "think", it is Awareness/Pure Subjectivity.

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      You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.

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      I am whatever I'm aware of in the present moment, and the awareness in itself

      Did I get it right?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnius Deus View Post
      I am whatever I'm aware of in the present moment, and the awareness in itself

      Did I get it right?
      If you were (EDIT: Fully aware of this), the question would dissolve immediately. (Yes, it replaces all doubt).
      Last edited by really; 06-23-2008 at 02:03 PM.

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      ^ Ahahahhahahah!
      You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ClouD View Post
      ^ Ahahahhahahah!
      Now it's my turn to ask a question. Is your expression explainable?

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      Hahaha, the very question is the expression.
      You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.

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      I is used when you are the subject, me isn't. If you use me, you are basically talking about something else but including yourself.

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      A solitary, fluid perception of the universe, bound by matter and mater.
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      I murdered someone, there was bloody everywhere. On the walls, on my hands. The air smelled metallic, like iron. My mouth... tasted metallic, like iron. The floor was metallic, probably iron

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      Quote Originally Posted by ClouD View Post
      ^ Ahahahhahahah!
      ROFL!

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      I don't get it. You guys appear to tease me when you don't explain things.

      Quote Originally Posted by ClouD View Post
      Hahaha, the very question is the expression.
      I don't understand how pointing and laughing is a question.

      If "someone" united with awareness and the eternal moment I don't think there would be any "room" for questions. That's because the mind goes silent in awe.

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      Quote Originally Posted by really View Post

      If "someone" united with awareness and the eternal moment I don't think there would be any "room" for questions. That's because the mind goes silent in awe.
      There ya go in red

      Everything is self arising

      Questions arise almost at the same time the answers do

      The synchronicity

      Such hilarity

      Such laughter

      Bliss

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      Quote Originally Posted by NonDualistic View Post
      There ya go in red

      Everything is self arising

      Questions arise almost at the same time the answers do

      The synchronicity

      Such hilarity

      Such laughter

      Bliss
      You guys amaze me. While I may be able to understand the crucial elements of devotional non-duality, I have only some spiritual experience which I can't describe effectively.

      Like I tried to say in "Live to die, Die to live", it's wonderful how I experience glimpses of Reality, and then I find that you and ClouD are "moving" also, as a team. But the apparent team is just the Self. I'm so grateful for you two to be together, and myself... in the middle somewhere. Destiny of Now.

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      Whenever looking for an I, there is an observer, a questioner, and an answerer. Who is I? There is only one univers, but it has many parts that make up a whole.

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