Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba
Hahaha.. I bet those really exist, but scissors without plastic packaging exist too
They do, and it a perfect world they shouldn't. Why couldn't there be a world, for instance in a parallel universe of some sort, or just a different universe that might occur after this one 'crunches' and bangs again with different parameters (some physics theory).
I understand what you mean, but my point was, if you believe in evolution, then the ways how things went, were the only possible way they could have gone. So what's the point in feeling sad or be angry about this world not being perfect, because this is the only possible world we can have on the way to perfect? So in every definition, this world is already perfect.
No, not really. There is a difference between determinism and perfection. I myself am deterministic: I say everything has but one way of happening, and my choices and actions, as everyone else's, are illusions. I still call your perfection-theory bullshit. Perfection is still a word. Words are in our minds. When I think of a perfect world, I think of one where there for one is no world hunger (and no blatantly stupid people plz). That is what perfection means. It doesn't mean "the way it is now and the way it will be". Just because our world is in a way unchangeable in it's course does in no way mean you have to apply a positive connotation to it. Positive connotations, our evolution reserved for puppies, candy and children's laughter. Dying children in Africa with flies on them arn't perfect. They are bound to be there. A thousand years ago there was no other way for events to happen than to cause this thousand years later, so? What does perfection has to do with that? Why not chance "perfect" with "set". Or like I said, solid. REALLY, why not?
Doesn't sound so much fun? Is that it? You want to say 'Oooowwww, the world is so peeeerfect' ^_______^ that's just delusional.
We evolve from animals to humans to God. We don't instantly became humans from apes. People who don't realize this are the people who complain about the world. Have patience, you can't expect apes to instantly magicly turn into true human beings. Evolution takes time. Evolution is not magic.
What? Did I accidentally brought my wizard hat and wand to my previous post? When did anyone say evolution was magic?
Also, if you think evolution is a 'ladder only up' to a 'clear, defined or at least certain but unknow, goal' you really don't understand evolution. We are not going to evolve to 'god'. Evolution is no concious process with a goal. Evolution is the process were stuff that survives keeps on surviving. That's all. No godly stuff there, just matter crawling around. (Awesomely hilarious matter sometimes, but nothing devine.)
edit: Oh yeah, read up on how evolution really works. Read some Dawkins or something. Also read the God Delusion. Just cross out "god" and put "new age evolving-to-gods/perfection-theory" in those gaps
Everyone who claims the world isn't perfect, expects that evolution happens in a fingersnap... be realistic.. evolution takes time.
There's always a better way to do things, the definition of perfection includes perfection to the infinite. If you can see this, you can see this world is already perfect, it just gets more and more perfect each day, to the infinite. The only reason why we think this world is not perfect, is because we can come up with a better way to do things. But this better way to do things WILL manifest itself over time, no matter what. This is called evolution... denying perfection is denying evolution.
Big fat lol at contradiction. It's perfect! And getting perfecter every day! There is a reason 'perfecter' doesn't exist, it is self-refuting. Especially in your seemingly metaphysical nonsense theory.
Jesus, you are really waiting for the 'time till we evolve into gods'. As the religious nuts waiting for their saviour, the alien-conspiracy nuts to be taken to Pluto, and the astrology nuts waiting for their divine faith to unwind as big fat balls of flaming gas billions of miles away 'told them so'.
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