Never said that lol nice try though. |
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So, you don't believe that nubula are the birth-place of stars? |
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Sweet dreams and roses on your pillow.
Never said that lol nice try though. |
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Mark McCaughrean |
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How do you know you are not dreaming right now?
I jumped the gun there. Mark McCaughrean is an astrophysicist and professor, and apparently a proponent of the Solar Nebular Hypothesis, but his name is mentioned in that article because he was partly responsible for the images. The Solar Nebular Hypothesis was first thought up in 1734 by Emanuel Swedenborg. It was developed from there by a lot of people, including Immanuel Kant. It was originally meant to explain only the origin of our solar system, but it is now used as a model for solar system development throughout the universe. |
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How do you know you are not dreaming right now?
Scientific method - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
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hathor28, |
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Sweet dreams and roses on your pillow.
Yes sometimes, but i am not dumb to not see a few people here stand up more on science than anything else, i hate that. I got nothing more to say or it will turn ugly. |
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Everyone should be a science fan. You don't need to be a scientist, or an engineer, or have gone to school, or been taught by others, or be smart to be a fan of science. Science is for everyone. |
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You have misunderstood. |
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First off hathor28, relax. If you believe in the bible, don't get so upset. Have a cup of Sanka. |
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Sweet dreams and roses on your pillow.
It's a test, silly! Standards were slipping recently so God decided to tune it up to hard-mode by filling the universe with evidence that he didn't oversee the creation life or anything else for that matter. That way only the fervently irrational would be allowed into paradise. Genius! What a guy! |
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Sweet dreams and roses on your pillow.
I think the problem with western civilization is that you read genesis as straight up fact. While it is fact, if you read it in original text (Hebrew) it actually comes out sounding like poetry. In a nutshell, the same way we shorten stories to make it easier to spread around, that's what they did. They made the text flow-y. |
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"There's nothing to fear, but fear itself."
"Dreams feel real while we're in them. It's only when we wake up that we realize something was actually strange."
It doesn't matter how you read genesis, it is always going to be wrong. Even if you take the entire thing as metaphor, it is still off. No matter how much you try to twist it in the name of context, it is always going to be wrong, because the stuff just makes no sense at all. The creation story is just like all the other creation myths found all around the world, they were stories told by early man to try to explain their place on earth, and because they lacked knowledge their stories were wrong. |
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I'm sorry, I forgot you're so knowledegable of doctrines written thousands of years before your existence. And context/metaphors do matter. How can you even provide an intellectual debate with saying it doesn't matter? Here's two examples of how it matters. In Genesis God breathed life into dust creating man. Realize God is a scientist and this could be a less intelligent people describing evolution. Thought of that? Also in the bible (which has managed to survive thousands of years and convert most of the worlds population) there are several < several, more detailed creation accounts that actually align with what most scientists believe for the early days of the earth. |
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Right, it's all fact, just highly abstracted facts to the point that they forget to mention anything resembling little details like hydrogen and nuclear fusion and instead talks about a snake in a garden. Very enlightening. The truth is the average 3rd grader has a vastly more complete understanding of the origin and nature of the universe than anyone a thousand years ago did or would have had after reading the Bible. People were not stupider back then. Our brains are essentially biologically identical, the only thing they lacked back then was the framework of knowledge that makes it so comparatively easy for us to understand the cosmos today. In only a few hundred years we have taught ourselves so much about the origin of the cosmos, yet god's esoteric poems have failed to teach anyone anything real about the subject despite existing from [supposedly] the beginning of creation itself. Why is that? |
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