Thread: If ...

Wow An interesting thread for me to happen across as a newbie here. coming in late as it were I don't really know where to start. So i wont. Yet. Well ok I'll give it a bit of a go: eh?
What would I do?... hmm I don't think I would do much of anything different. As Quantum mechanics/Physics research points somewhere tword a sharing of knowledge over distance (like telepathy) and genetics shows the possibility of passing knowledge onward to our decedents. It seems we are connected by what some would call spirit. Others Dark Energy. Which is measured by MIT as 74% of the known universe. If God is real I don't think his ego is so that he needs us to stand around and tell him how great he is. That would be prideful and a sin in this context.. If he is not real then our interconnection through Quantum Mechanics and Dark energy/matter makes us ONE. To personify the divine is irrelevant in whether we receive salvation. Our behavior and compassion tword the existing physical universe we call "reality" (which makes up 4% of the known universe) is what is at issue. So to reiterate, I myself would do nothing different. Either way.

I thought genetics was to do with passing genes on to our descendents. But maybe some buddhist monks in a cave somewhere have discovered the ultimate workings of DNA, and have the knowledge required to splice genes in, coding for instinctual knowledge of their choosing. Now that would be scary. Imagine being biologically forced to "know" that George W. Bush is emperor of the universe!

But that's unrelated to the point I think you're trying to make, which I agree with.

Originally Posted by RedfishBluefish

I thought genetics was to do with passing genes on to our descendents. But maybe some buddhist monks in a cave somewhere have discovered the ultimate workings of DNA, and have the knowledge required to splice genes in, coding for instinctual knowledge of their choosing. Now that would be scary. Imagine being biologically forced to "know" that George W. Bush is emperor of the universe!

But that's unrelated to the point I think you're trying to make, which I agree with.

LoL That would be scary. Genetic science now theorizes that knowledge may be passed from one generation to another through genetics. Much like the migration patterns of birds and such. Not Aunt Suzzie had blond hair kinda knowledge, but truths of the universe type. It is the use of only 6 to 10 % of our physical brain that keeps us from actualizing the data. This by the 90% of "junk" DNA that we have.

Originally Posted by thegnome54

I'm curious to hear what ClouD is trying to convey one day, but he never seems to post more than two sentences at a time, and I could swear he's trying to make their meanings as veiled as humanly possible.

The needle on which 'i' attempt to tie a thread, so that it might see more than just the point.

I was recently wondering how...
How does the mind reap so much attention of consciousness.
Language, is such a factor that it is more than a barrier.

In fact, the truth in the last sentences were so clouded with duality that it may have been to not have said them... this one as well...

I put meaning into condenscened words, so that those who easily get distracted will have nothing to nitpick at, but it's "crypticness".

Originally Posted by Quester

Genetic science now theorizes that knowledge may be passed from one generation to another through genetics. Much like the migration patterns of birds and such. Not Aunt Suzzie had blond hair kinda knowledge, but truths of the universe type. It is the use of only 6 to 10 % of our physical brain that keeps us from actualizing the data. This by the 90% of "junk" DNA that we have.

I don't know about truths of the universe being passed genetically, and "junk" DNA is turning out not to be so, but it is true that environmental things like diet can have genetic effects that are passed on to the descendants.

Not quite Lamarckian, but similar on much smaller scale.

Why do you think we only use 6 - 10% of our brains?

Originally Posted by Quester

It is the use of only 6 to 10 % of our physical brain that keeps us from actualizing the data.

There's no evidence that we use only 10% of our brains, that's just a myth.

People who believe that are only using 10% of their brain power (not 'brainz').

And as for ClouD's cryptic and vague posts....ugh

Originally Posted by grasshoppa

People who believe that are only using 10% of their brain power (not 'brainz').

And as for ClouD's cryptic and vague posts....ugh

What part do you refuse to understand?

I can actually answer that one... I don't refuse to understand anything. You make it harder to understand for no apparent reason. You have important, and informative things say why not just come out and say it? The only thing I don't really understand is 'why?' you choose to be so cryptic.

Originally Posted by ClouD

I put meaning into condenscened words, so that those who easily get distracted will have nothing to nitpick at, but it's "crypticness".

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So... You veil your meaning in cryptic words so that anyone who lacks the "mental dexterity" to decipher it (and 'therefore' the intelligence required to make a meaningful argument) is unable to make any objection besides that of your words being cryptic.
Yes?

Originally Posted by RedfishBluefish

So... You veil your meaning in cryptic words so that anyone who lacks the "mental dexterity" to decipher it (and 'therefore' the intelligence required to make a meaningful argument) is unable to make any objection besides that of your words being cryptic.
Yes?

It is quite possible to actually drive one farther away from grasping such understanding by speaking plainly about "things." Ancient texts speak of not "disturbing" those who are not receptive. Hence the esoteric"viel".

Esoteric nonsense. Those who don't believe aren't going to anyway. Esoteric teachings like th Kabalah are designed to keep some "special" secret from prying eyes. Thus keeping it safe. It also inflates the ego of the one "knowing" them. Shamanism can be much the same, passed down verbally from master to apprentice.

Originally Posted by ClouD

Realise truth, in that you are... that you are heaven, and hell, in one.

Beyond this, realise that all flux must pivot.

Come now. Do you really expect anyone to get anything meaningful out of something like this?

How can 'flux' 'pivot'?! How can a human being be two places that Christianity has invented?

Verily, there is more to 'nitpick' at in such a statement than there would be in an intelligible paragraph. We cannot see into your mind, so personal metaphors will not be passed on to us by virtue of 'condensed' words.

It depends on what form god was proved as e.g. Bearded man in the sky, living consciousness in all living things, formless creator e.t.c.

I would be fine in thinking god was simply "life" itself but as a great creator with the potential to become angry I would worship him out of fear alone.

Originally Posted by thegnome54

Come now. Do you really expect anyone to get anything meaningful out of something like this?

How can 'flux' 'pivot'?! How can a human being be two places that Christianity has invented?

Verily, there is more to 'nitpick' at in such a statement than there would be in an intelligible paragraph. We cannot see into your mind, so personal metaphors will not be passed on to us by virtue of 'condensed' words.

sluf is perception! it pivots on the self which is percieving thhr fflux
Im soryy about saygin thinsg toyu dont understand :/
Ill stop. I do love you thouygh. all of yuo.

I do indeed love you though...

Heaven and hell, are interpreted subjectively.

The flux, is apparent.

Your 'center' is the pivot point.

Intepret it as a reflection if that is what you choose... though there is deeper meaning.

It wouldn't do justice to continue a ramble in 'false' wishes of your wellbeing.

I think Sphinx is either drunk or really tired.
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God to me lives in the fouth dimnsion. If it were true it would explain alot of things like how he would be able to judge us when we die because in the 4th dimension time is physical and god would be able to look at our whole lives in an instant. also the 4th dimension would give another direction to what we already know. ie up,down,left,right,forward and back. Maybe the next direction would be from dimension to dimension. It would also explan how some granite rock on earth was formed in under a day when usually granite takes over billions of years to form.

That makes so much sense! That's it, I'm converting on the spot!

Originally Posted by Mark75

That makes so much sense! That's it, I'm converting on the spot!

I wouldn't if i were u. we made that theory during math today.

That explains it.

Originally Posted by Scatterbrain

There's no evidence that we use only 10% of our brains, that's just a myth.

I've heard god knows how many theorys of people going this is right, that is right, etc. Here is 2 examples...i've heard we u
se 10% of our brain, and it's impossible to use 100% because we will be doing dishes, laundry, something to eat, putting dishes away all at the same time. Also heard you can use 100% of your brain and the other stuff i mentioned is false.

What part do you refuse to understand?

I don't want to understand cryptic messages, why bother giving words meaning when they have meanings already? I don't need to be led astray, when i can easily get an meaningfull answer.

I wish I had an electric monk.

I, as a former atheist, do consider myself to have discovered the existence of God, and I feel no need to either praise, or service him. I see him as neither omnipotent nor omniscient. I see The third part of God, the Holy Ghost, as being the universal consciousness that we are all a part of, neither more or less apart of than the Father. Furthermor I see the Father as being in his position at the top of Heaven as being a result of karma earned in the previous incarnation of the Universe. I see his supposition that he is all powerful not to be his own fault but one of the tricks of the universal law that one is not naturally aware of existence higher than themselves. He is merely King, as in the legitimate leader. The definition of legitimate is that he has power only because we give it to him.

I'm not trying to push this idea on anyone, no one here has my individual experiences, I'm just sharing what I hold as most probably true.