Originally Posted by Photolysis
Ultimately though, these things aside, I don't see any real problems with your beliefs. The same does not apply to a lot of religious beliefs though.
thank you! i take this as a huge compliment, and think it shows that aethiests dont seem to be as single minded as they say they are'nt.
Originally Posted by Lucid_boy
You know, I'm a fellow christian so I hate to say this but I feel I must. It sounds like you've taken all the warm and fuzzy parts of the faith, decided to believe in those and ignored any part that might compell you to higher standards such as Sin or hell. It seems like you've looked at all the scary parts and said, "I can do whatever I want, they don't exsist." Your definition of God sounds like someone on to many antideppresents with no real feeling or thought.
Thats all I felt like saying, I apologize if I have offended you, this is why we have diffrent sects of the faith.
im not offended at all, simply looking for more truth.
why cant i take the warm and fuzzy parts and ignore the others? its my belief, if i may quote my catholic godmother on this, the bible is like lubys, take what you want, leave what you dont. some
Originally Posted by Photolysis
What's more moral, a person who acts kindly because he believes it's the right thing to do, or a person who acts that way out of fear?
someone doing it out of kindness. that is my final thought on the matter.
Originally Posted by aorozco
you know what i find to be funny about this huge debate of wether god and jesus and the spirit and hell and heaven exist is there are two things that can happen.
i believe in god and all, and when someone decides to say god doesn't exist it's okay cause this is what wil happen, either i am wrong, and there is not a god and i lived a fulfilling life, without the alcohol, and drugs , and no one gets to say i told you so cause there would be nothing after death, or i could be right and god does exist and i am saved and lived a fulfilling life and i don't get screwed. either way i will be fine. so that really should be what it comes down to.
this is a lot of what i think, i agree with a lot of this, why not just be on the safe side? god exists? were in heaven, yay! god dosnt exist? we go to the same place the aetheists go, which is apparently no where.
Originally Posted by Scatterbrain
Or it turns out Allah exists and you go to hell for worshipping a false god your whole life.
Or Bakna'lesh, the god of intoxication, exists and punishes you for abstaining from drugs and alcohol.
Or [imagine another god] exists, etc.
allah? in a way, i think allah is god, i may be deist here, but god is everywhere, even though he dosnt have the same name in all places. as for gods that supposedly promote unethical behavior, i think someone was just trying to get what they wanted, much like how chistianity has been transformed today.
Originally Posted by Universal Mind
you guys crack me up, "our holy book" is the most pretentious overly hyped about book in the world, it was NOT written by god, or even jesus, i do not believe anyone that wrote it was a mouthpiece of god, but simply an overly dramaticized vesion of the truth. im agreeing with you here, the bible has most likely been tampered with countless times, and holds little truth to me.
Originally Posted by Universal Mind
Belief is not a choice.
THIS, is completly false, i chose to believe in christ, whether my family told me to or not, i am subjected to raw aethism every day, and i have a choice whether or not to believe in god.
thanks for your thoughts everyone, i was expecting flames, thank you for being so mature about the subject.
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