Thread: Steven's Trilogy - Zero Equals Infinity

A dreaming God. I like that idea. I believe reality to be something like that now.

According to my physics professors, dividing by zero equals infinity. Now feel your brain explode as mine did.

Originally Posted by Naiya

According to my physics professors, dividing by zero equals infinity. Now feel your brain explode as mine did.

oh god

I have physics next year

Although, this does sort of make sense. Now, string theory, that's gonna be a tough one. Something about 12 dimensions makes it seem a little hard to understand

Originally Posted by stevenlchilds

Zero equals infinity.

Provide mathematical proof of your claim.

Originally Posted by Naiya

According to my physics professors, dividing by zero equals infinity. Now feel your brain explode as mine did.

Uh oh, I am going to have to argue with your professors. Dividing by zero does not result in infinity. Dividing by zero is impossible.

8 divided by 2 is 4 because 4 is what you multiply 2 by to get 8. Now imagine 5 divided by 0. 0 times what equals 5? There is no answer. Even infinity does not work.

According to my physics professors, dividing by zero equals infinity. Now feel your brain explode as mine did.

It's really pretty obvious... if you have some non-zero number, how many times do you have to add zeroes together to reach it? Clearly an infinite number, as no matter how many zeroes you add you'll still have zero.

Technically infinity isn't actually a number though, it just represents a process.

'1 divided by 0 equals infinity' actually just means as you divide 1 by smaller and smaller positive numbers closer and closer to 0, the answer gets as big as you want. It doesn't mean '1 divided by the number 0 is the number infinity'. If that were the case you could ask 'why not minus infinity'?

Uh oh, I am going to have to argue with your professors. Dividing by zero does not result in infinity. Dividing by zero is impossible.

Mmm well it's well defined in various systems. Normally you actually define infinity as the 'rational' 1/0. As with all mathematics we do this because it is useful.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Uh oh, I am going to have to argue with your professors. Dividing by zero does not result in infinity. Dividing by zero is impossible.

8 divided by 2 is 4 because 4 is what you multiply 2 by to get 8. Now imagine 5 divided by 0. 0 times what equals 5? There is no answer. Even infinity does not work.

Bullshit.

If you have the function f(x) = (2+x)/(3-x) then what is the limit as x --> 3^-?

x/0 is an infinitely large number.

For x =/= 0

Pay attention as I blow your mind with my algebra skills:

x/0 = ∞

x = 0·∞

x/∞ = 0

As any nonzero number divided by infinity is infinitely small, the only solution is 0. Apply the inverse and you arrive at infinity.

You overlooked a problem with your big mind blower. Infinity is not a number.

http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.large.numbers.html

http://nrich.maths.org/2756

It is impossible to divide by zero, at least in terms of real numbers.

http://www.math.utah.edu/~pa/math/0by0.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_by_zero

If you have the function f(x) = (2+x)/(3-x) then what is the limit as x --> 3-?

You have to be careful though, firstly because the whole point is that there isn't a limit, and secondly because the existence of the limit doesn't imply anything about the function at the actual value.

For example f(x) = 1 when x = 0, 0 elsewhere. The limit of f(x) as x tends to 0 is 0, but f(0) is 1.

As a matter of fact, if and only if the limit of f(x) as x tends to 0 is f(0), the function is continuous; so the example function you gave isn't.

Well of course it's not a number. However the limit still exists and it is still infinity.

The function I gave has a limit as x --> 3^-. It is an undefined number, or infinity.

'Infinity' is an expression of the lack of a limit though.

I think the key point is that the limit of a function towards a number doesn't imply things about the function at the number. The question is 'what is 1/0'; the fact that the limit of 1/x as x tends to 0 is infinity does not imply that 1/0 is infinity.

The problem with such a statement is clear if you consider what happens when you take the limit in different directions; you get plus and minus infinity. They can't both be the value of 1/0.

Why not? Both require infinitely large numbers to "work". Just as dividing any constant by infinity is basically zero as the result is "infinitely" small, the only number which would work is 0.

At your last point; that depends on the function. f(x) = (3)/(3-x)² has a 'limit' at 3.

But dividing any c by minus infinity would also be 0, so c/0 = -infinity

1/0 can't be two different things. Then division would no longer be an operation.

f(x) = (3)/(3-x)2 still doesn't have a value at 3 because as I've explained limits don't imply things about functions at the limit.

Originally Posted by stevenlchilds

Zero equals infinity. This means there is no Creator or it means the creator is nothing. Therefore there is no God.

Could you explain this, further? How does zero equaling infinity mean that there is no God?

Originally Posted by stevenlchilds

For the most part his book is about being true to yourself and not being hypocritical.

Ok. I have to call you out on this. You once told me that you believe that you're being telepathically contacted by aliens, in your dreams. I offered the possibility that you weren't, and you told me that you don't care what I believe. You know that it's true, because you "feel" it, and I can't say that it's not, because I don't know what you "feel."

Well, what do you say to all of the people here that "Feel" God? How can you tell them that God does not exist, and not be hypocritical, given what you said before?

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Ok. I have to call you out on this. You once told me that you believe that you're being telepathically contacted by aliens, in your dreams. I offered the possibility that you weren't, and you told me that you don't care what I believe. You know that it's true, because you "feel" it, and I can't say that it's not, because I don't know what you "feel."

Well, what do you say to all of the people here that "Feel" God? How can you tell them that God does not exist, and not be hypocritical, given what you said before?

Well said, man.

Originally Posted by Xei

But dividing any c by minus infinity would also be 0, so c/0 = -infinity

1/0 can't be two different things. Then division would no longer be an operation.

Why can't it be two different things? That only works with numbers, and as infinity is not a number, it should naturally behave differently.

Because in mathematics we want there to be a single answer to 'what is 1/0'; otherwise we get useless systems or contradictions.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Uh oh, I am going to have to argue with your professors. Dividing by zero does not result in infinity. Dividing by zero is impossible.

8 divided by 2 is 4 because 4 is what you multiply 2 by to get 8. Now imagine 5 divided by 0. 0 times what equals 5? There is no answer. Even infinity does not work.

Well, THER'S YER PROBLEM.

You're using math logic. Allow me to give the full version of the story. I was measuring the resistance of different parts of an electric circuit and had just made a pretty shiny graph showing my data in Excel. When the professor walks by we ask him if it looks all right. He said, "well, what happens when you divide by zero?"

"The universe explodes!" said I.

"You can't divide by zero!" said my lab partner.

"This isn't a math class! In physics a division by zero is infinity."


So our diode had infinite resistance at certain voltages according to the graph.

The end!

Originally Posted by Supernova

oh god

I have physics next year

Although, this does sort of make sense. Now, string theory, that's gonna be a tough one. Something about 12 dimensions makes it seem a little hard to understand

If this is your first time taking physics, I can bet you will not cover string theory.

Lol yeah. If it's your first time doing a degree I can still bet you won't cover string theory.

Originally Posted by Naiya

Well, THER'S YER PROBLEM.

You're using math logic. Allow me to give the full version of the story. I was measuring the resistance of different parts of an electric circuit and had just made a pretty shiny graph showing my data in Excel. When the professor walks by we ask him if it looks all right. He said, "well, what happens when you divide by zero?"

"The universe explodes!" said I.

"You can't divide by zero!" said my lab partner.

"This isn't a math class! In physics a division by zero is infinity."


So our diode had infinite resistance at certain voltages according to the graph.

The end!

There is reality or existence or the universe or multiverse. We are here wherever and whatever we are we exist. The truth about our existence does not depend on what we believe. The truth as to what caused us to be here is absolute and not dependent on our opinions of it. We can call the creator or cause of reality God. What God is is not our business so to speak. We do not get to create God. God gets to create us. We would not be if something did not cause us to be. What if there are many other planets with life on them. Some may be highly advanced beyond our imagination. They may have mastered space and time. God would have created them too. They do not get to create what God is either. The truth is the truth is the truth. We don’t get to make up what truth is. Truth is absolute and is not subject to our opinions. Truth is objective not subjective. God and truth can be thought of as the same thing. So what is God? What is truth? Einstein did not think God to be a person. He believed in an impersonal God. I also believe God to be non personal. In order to match science and myth of creation from religion and such my conclusion is that God is Zero. There is no reason that nothing cannot be the creator. Does God have intelligence? I say yes cause we are here. Hahaha this is mind boggling. It makes me laugh. It is a sacred Endeavour to me to understand what God is. Nothing is sacred, more sacred than I can say. There is love cause we are here. I hope you can experience this awareness. Is there evil? Yes cause we are here.
google "God is Zero"

What is the purpouse of this thread, other than to ramble this half-baked nonsense?

I get really annoyed when people have the arrogance to think that they know exactly whats going on, and exactly what "truth" is. Your "logical" conclusions are anything but, because you just claim lots of stuff, then automaticly assumes it is the correct answer. You cite no evidence, or any arguments at all, really.

And we did create the idea of god, or gods, more correctly. Thousands of them actually.

And you should really try to write more coherently. With commas and proper sentence-structuring.

Originally Posted by stevenlchilds

The truth is the truth is the truth.