African Dream Herb Observations! Also called Xhosa Herb or Silene Capensis

**Carzlebub** · 06-05-2011 08:26 AM

Introduction:

Hi! This is going to be a log of my experiments with the Xhosa Herb. This is mostly for my own benefit because since all herbs have different effects on different people, this may not have the same effect on you who is reading this. I am going to try to make this as scientific as possible, and unlike the "professionals", I will not, I repeat, I WILL NOT ignore the immeasurable aspects of this experiment. I will try to quantify them as best as I can and not leave them out. This will be as detailed as possible.

This experiment will last exactly 3 months, because it is said that after 3 months of consistently ingesting this herb, your dreams will permanently be changed even if you stop taking the herb.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! Comment on my method of experiment and have some suggestions for me!

Herb Info:

Brief History of Herb: This obscure flowering species is regarded by Xhosa diviners, An African Tribe, as a sacred plant with the ability to induce remarkably vivid and prophetic dreams. Reputed as more powerful than other dream herbs

1) Scientific Name: Silene Capensis
2) Supposed Active Chemical that is causing abnormal dreams: Triterpenoid saponins
3) I obtained my batch from: KT Botanicals. THESE ARE ROOTS, NOT POWDERED

Side note: DO NOT GET THE POWDERED FORM AS IT OXIDIZES VERY QUICKLY AND IT WILL LOSE ITS POTENCY OVER TIME! PLUS ITS MORE EXPENSIVE

Method of Ingestion: I will use the same method of ingestion throughout the entire experiment. My method is going to be the traditional method. Its the Froth Method.

Here's what I do in retard-proof form.
1) measure 1 gram of the root with my handy-dandy scale. 1 gram will last you 3-4 days, making it about 250mg dose a day, the ideal dose. If you don't have a scale, borrow one from one of your drug dealing friends or steal one from the school lab. Or just estimate, its not that big of a deal if your off a bit

Note: The root will probably have a lot of dirt on it. Don't wash it off, as I suspect that you may wash away the root hairs which are quite valuable in chemicals. Just grow a pair and use the dirty herb.

2) Crush up the root as best as possible. I use a hammer and a wrench and I just claw at the stuff until it is a nice powder.
3) Dump the contents into a sort of large drinking glass container. Any will do, the bigger the better.
4) Fill the container with water a little less than halfway full.
5) Get a wooden spoon! For an odd reason, the herbs stick to metal and plastic spoons and its annoying. if you don't have a wooden spoon, a metal one will work just fine, its just really annoying.
6) Put the wooden spoon in the cup, and put it between your palms and rub your palms together as if you are trying to start a fire with wood
7) Keep at it! Stir vigorously
8) Eventually, after about 30 seconds, foam will start to appear.
9) Now use another spoon, it can be metal, and take some of that delicious foam and put it in your mouth!
10) Keep filling your mouth with foam and swallow until you become bloated or burp.
11) Each 1g solution should last 3-4 days. Your best bet is to keep using it until the cup smells or if no more foam is forming.

**Note: I put a bit of honey in my solution to improve the taste, and its AMAZING!

AUXILLARY STEP: If you want to be cost effective, put a few drops of either vodka or hydrogen peroxide into your solution to prevent bacteria from forming. Apparently, Xhosa herb has anti-septic properties, so you probably don't have to do this, but its worth the safety. In this experiment I am putting a few rocks of myrhh or hydrogen peroxide in my solution as it is an anti-septic and shouldnt effect the outcome of this experiment.

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Basic Info about the Subject, myself
1) 5 ft 10 white male
2) 130 lbs
3) 18 years old
4) I have taken this dream herb a few times before (around 5 days) with semi-successful results

OK. The Dream Situation

It is important to mention my ability to remember dreams and the quality of my dreams before I start this experiment, so we have a control to compare the changes to.

1) Dream Recall
My dream recall at this moment is pretty terrible. I barely remember 1 dream a night. This has been so for the past month or two. I used to be able to remember a consistent 2 dreams per night a while back. I hardly ever remember anything about a dream besides the plot and my sense of sight. Sense of smell is virtually non-existent. On rare occasions I hear sounds and have conversations. I have virtually no sense of touch or taste either. I do usually remember my thoughts about dream objects and characters.

To sum it up, Primarily, the plot and my thoughts and my sense of sight is always remembered. Everything else, not. I WILL QUANTIFY RECALL EACH NIGHT BY STATING THE NUMBER OF DREAMS I REMEMBER

2) Vividness
My dreams are by no way vivid. On a vividness scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the most vivid, I would rate my vividness a 4. Some dreams are barely colorful. Some even in black and white. I think vividness and recall go hand in hand. If you have a vivid dream it is easier to recall it. The features of objects and characters is barely specfic at times. Occasionally I can see textures quite clearly.

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Log
The whole shebang! I will try to do the same thing each day which is, I will consume the foam 30 minutes after waking up in the morning on an empty stomach. It is believed that the herb goes through your bloodstream very slowly and so the morning should be the best time. Then I will try to eat food 30 minutes later, a light breakfast of course. EACH DAY I WILL LIST:
1) Amount of Foam consumed (In bottle-fulls)
2) Hours of sleep (NOT FROM LAST NIGHT, since I take it in the morning, it is the night of.
3) How many dreams I had
4) Vividness scale of 1 to 10, 10 being most vivid.
5) Craziness/strangeness of the content of the dream, measured on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the craziest content. I've noticed that when I have taken this herb before the architecture in my dreams have been insane

ALSO I WILL LIST ANY OTHER VARIABLES THAT WILL AFFECT THE EXPERIMENT SUCH AS IF I SMOKED MARY J OR DRANK THE NIGHT OF, OR IF I TOOK A MULTIVITAMIN.. ETC.

I will post a log of each night on this thread

If you would like to follow along, check out my dream journal.

THANKS!

**Dthoughts** · 06-05-2011 10:15 AM

Nice approach . It's hard to find such detailed reports of dream herbs. I'll be keeping an eye on this thread. Thanks !

**Carzlebub** · 06-07-2011 03:08 AM

Ok unfortunately im going to have to push back this experiment until june 13 because it is my last week before i am graduating high school and im planning to get wrecked almost every night and i feel that it will interfere with this experiment too much, so i will start my observations next monday!

**SystemsLock** · 06-07-2011 05:53 AM

I support this project and hope you keep with it.

Out of curiosity, you're in high school so I assume you live at home. How did you convince your parents to let you order psychedelic herbs off the internet?

**Matt123** · 06-07-2011 07:15 AM

Sounds good, keep us posted.

**Dannon Oneironaut** · 06-07-2011 07:31 AM

They are not psychedelic herbs but psycho=active, but so is coffee. Plus, he's 18. He doesn't have to have Daddy's permission.

**tommo** · 06-07-2011 01:37 PM

Cool. Don't bail out on these things like most people seem to do. I might to a similar thing with Calea once mine grows big enough.

**Dannon Oneironaut** · 06-08-2011 12:02 AM

You are growing some Calea Zacatechichi?

**Carzlebub** · 06-08-2011 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by SystemsLock

I support this project and hope you keep with it.

Out of curiosity, you're in high school so I assume you live at home. How did you convince your parents to let you order psychedelic herbs off the internet?

hahaha! Actually I've ordered psychoactive herbs when I was 17, but I'm able to convince my parents to let me order these things by.....bum bum bum.....not telling them! =D. Simply purchase a gift card from CVS and use it on the internet, and know exactly when your mailman comes by each day and bam! Its time to get high!!! I promise I will not bail out! Also, if they did find out, my backup plan was to tell them that it was loose tea. Although there may be some missed days wayyy later on in the experiment since I am going to europe on a cruise in the middle of this summer but I will try to continue my experiment abroad if possible.

Is there any other information that I am possibly missing from the debriefing that you guys are curious about? Like other confounding variables and stuff?

**tommo** · 06-08-2011 03:59 AM

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

You are growing some Calea Zacatechichi?

Well, it's growing itself

Fairly slowly for some reason.
Everyone says it grows fast but mine doesn't for some reason.

**Dannon Oneironaut** · 06-08-2011 08:27 AM

The soil should be slightly acidic: 5.8 ph level is ideal. You can get testing strips and some ph down and ph up solutions at a growing store. Also, how much light is it getting, and what kind? And nutrients?

**tommo** · 06-08-2011 10:57 AM

I've got some of those strips for the pool, so I might use them.

I don't give it any nutrients. It is in that slow release soil (I know, I know....) at the start but that would have been used up mostly by now, with some perlite in it.. I read that it doesn't need much nutrients, if any, because it is a resilient plant that grows in the desert.
I hardly water it, just let it get rain every now and again mostly. It is in the shade but it gets sunlight about probably 5-6 hours a day in Summer. Kind of light is harsh Australian sun hehe

**dacher2** · 06-09-2011 02:48 AM

this is so cool. I wonder what other rare strange plants increase lucid dreaming skill.

**Dannon Oneironaut** · 06-09-2011 07:08 AM

skill?

**Dthoughts** · 06-09-2011 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by dacher2

this is so cool. I wonder what other rare strange plants increase lucid dreaming skill.

I'm planning to buy some 5-HTP since some self-proclaimed guru who had been lucid dreaming for 10 years straight said it makes his dreams more vivid and lifelike.
He said it does something to increase the serotin level that ur pineal gland produces and that should result in more vivid dreams.
This in turn might increase ur chances on becoming lucid. Atleast, that's what i'm hoping for.

**VitaminJ** · 06-15-2011 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by Dthoughts

I'm planning to buy some 5-HTP since some self-proclaimed guru who had been lucid dreaming for 10 years straight said it makes his dreams more vivid and lifelike.
He said it does something to increase the serotin level that ur pineal gland produces and that should result in more vivid dreams.
This in turn might increase ur chances on becoming lucid. Atleast, that's what i'm hoping for.

5-htp is a direct precursor to Serotonin, and should be taken before bed with carbs! (Avoid proteins). It works simply by suppressing REM, which most people don't realize, and in turn forces the body into a deep sleep for the first half. This is why one will dream more frequently, and remember it in the second half of their sleep, as the REM rebound effect will occur. It is important to note that Serotonin is a strong REM suppressant, which is why any serotonin agonist should not be taken at WBTB.

**Carzlebub** · 06-16-2011 04:53 AM

ok i am really sorry i will start this experiment as soon as possible i have finals this week and i have no time in the morning to prepare my concoction, school is over this friday, so i promise i will start on saturday

**dacher2** · 06-18-2011 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

skill?

yes, skill.

**Carzlebub** · 06-20-2011 01:53 AM

im trying to edit my post but the website wont let me, someone help! says my editing time has expired?

**Carzlebub** · 06-20-2011 02:13 AM

Day 1:

1) 3 bottle-fulls of foam, taken at NIGHT, stopped after I burped up some foam
2) 9 hours of sleep, from about 3:30 AM to 12:30 PM
3) 1 dream remembered
4) 5 on the vividness scale
5) 4 on the craziness scale; summary: I was trying to hijack yachts from a lake

Other info: I vaporized JWH, which has similar effects to cannabis, a few hours before going to sleep and was mindfucked from it!

**Aeolar** · 06-20-2011 03:03 AM

Jwh?

**Carzlebub** · 06-20-2011 03:59 AM

its a synthetic research chemical that is almost identical to the effects of cannabis. not planning to do it that much ever again

**Carzlebub** · 06-21-2011 06:03 PM

Day 2:

2 bottle-fulls taken at NIGHT, I stopped after I felt bloated
Mon, 20 of June, 12:30 to 7:30ish, 7 hours of sleep
1 dream fragment remembered
4 on the vividness scale
4 on craziness scale/In the bath tub, a yu-gi-oh monster the dark magician came out of nowhere and scared me, ran to my friend, and he didn't care

Other info: Nothing

**Carzlebub** · 06-21-2011 06:06 PM

Day 3:

0 bottle-fulls taken, it was graduation day, I was so tired from partying that I was lazy enough to go to sleep
2:30 AM - 12:00 PMish 9.5 hours of sleep
0 dreams remembered
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Other info: I was high on cannabis, a bit high on tobacco (yes pathetic) and I just graduated high school

**Aeolar** · 06-21-2011 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by Carzlebub

its a synthetic research chemical that is almost identical to the effects of cannabis. not planning to do it that much ever again

Have you ever heard of 'spice'? I think that it's something quite similar. Spice was terrible by the way. Natural herb is much better.

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