Thread: Menthol as a Dream Enhancer

Originally Posted by CanisLucidus

Dose: Pre-bed: 100mg 5-HTP, 5g fish oil WBTB: 2xGalantamind (8mg galantamine, choline, B5), 300mg Alpha-GPC, 200mg L-theanine, 3 bags peppermint tea, 1 bag green tea
Side Effects: None.
Sleep Duration: 7 hours
WBTB: Yes. (30 minutes)
Lucid: Yes!!
Vividness: Very high.
Stability: High
Dream Comments: Possibly the coolest lucid dream of my life.

This was my experiment with combining three of my favorite supplements: galantamine, menthol, and caffeine. I was running a bit of a balancing act -- I wanted to get the dream- and imagination-enhancing effects of menthol without becoming amorous. (I was planning on summoning a female DV member and didn't want to have any unwise impulses.) Therefore, I dialed menthol back to 3 bags of peppermint tea, a dose at which I'd never experienced the side effect of "reproductive impulsiveness", but one that had given me a lot of cool dreams back in the day.

The result was a ton of imaginative, adventurous, non-sexy lucid dreaming. Control was good (though not perfect) and I pulled down about 25-30 minutes of LD time.

Of note, too, was the addition of caffeine. This led to a relatively smooth entry into the dream via WILD and (according to science) suppression of deep sleep. The combination of G, menthol, and just a touch of caffeine looks very promising for nice, long WILDs! This was an awesome night of dreaming. I'll definitely be trying this combo again!

The lucid dream: http://www.dreamviews.com/blogs/cani...weredog-46009/

Epic result there I'm gonna have to try that combo.

So I was too late to get to my local Holland and Barrett's (herbal remedies, vitamins etc. in case it's just a UK shop) but I did manage to get some Halls. They're extra strong, so how many should I take at first, and during WBTB? (is new at supplements)

Originally Posted by Ctharlhie

So I was too late to get to my local Holland and Barrett's (herbal remedies, vitamins etc. in case it's just a UK shop) but I did manage to get some Halls. They're extra strong, so how many should I take at first, and during WBTB? (is new at supplements)

If it's the Halls Extra strong I'm thinking of that I tried last year then mine were 15.8 mg of Menthol per lozenge. So on that basis for a first time then try two; one after the other during WBTB. (Due to the short half-life, etc.)
In my case I tend to get a bit of a gripey stomach and gas off the cough drops (and ingested air,) plus it is best to only try no more than a couple just in case you are sensitive to the other ingredients as well as the Menthol, e.g: Glycol, etc.
I advise a quick rinse/teeth cleaning after due to the high sugar content that some of these lozenges contain.

Hope that helps?

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

This definitely seems about right. I think diluting it would help in terms of accuracy though, if you dilute it four times then you have around 4.5 mg per drop, and then you could basically just take one ml of the dilute solution for around 80mg of menthol and 80mg of menthone. Going by this you could use it for 40 consecutive days, or almost three months by taking it every second day, for around 4 euro

Brilliant, that's the way to go. That really beats fretting over whether your "standard dropper" is "standard" enough. Simple and elegant.

Also, FWIW, Wikipedia lists the menthone content of peppermint essential oil as being 23.4% vs. the 40.7% for menthol. (Edit: Just remembered to add this.)

Speaking of taking it every 2nd day, I have not been able to decide what the maximum frequency is that I should employ. Because of the short half-life and quick elimination from the system, I felt justified going as high as 3x per week sometimes, but I wonder whether that's wise.

Originally Posted by Ctharlhie

Epic result there I'm gonna have to try that combo.

So I was too late to get to my local Holland and Barrett's (herbal remedies, vitamins etc. in case it's just a UK shop) but I did manage to get some Halls. They're extra strong, so how many should I take at first, and during WBTB? (is new at supplements)

Thanks. How much menthol is in each of those drops, Ctharlhie? For what it's worth, I got strong effects at ~35mg menthol (dream quantity and sexiness), with more mild effects at lower doses. At around ~20 mg or so, I believe that I got fewer You may just want to start on the lower end and very gradually go higher. Whatever suits your personality. Good record-keeping (right here's a good place) will help you find your sweet spot, I think.

I found the drops (or peppermint tea) most effective at WBTB, but YMMV. Highlander makes the excellent suggestion to brush those teeth afterward. Good thinking!