Thread: The SSILD test. - 30 days.

Originally Posted by Matt1

Day 1

After the 5th awakening, 7.5 hours of sleep, I spontaneously became lucid. This spontaneous (as opposed to through reality checks) lucidity is the same kind I got 2 days ago when trying this method a little.

Attempts: 1; Lucids: 1

CosmicIron, is this method known to work somewhat even if only maybe 3 short cycles are done as I fall asleep? (or maybe I did more and forgot due to falling asleep) And is it known to generally cause spontaneous DILDs?

EDIT: Or maybe I got one through subconscious pressure to have something to post about here. Well whatever works.

Yes Matt, spontaneous LD is very common with SSILD, so is spontaneous OBE... which you will often not be able to remember how you got it in the first place, LOL.

Is this spinning we're all talking about like when you're super drunk and you go to bed and you feel like you're swimming and spinning all over the place? I've had that happen to me a couple of times after trying some LD'ing techniques, but nothing has ever happened. I keep on spinning and spinning and then it stops and I'm still awake. Maybe I get woken up in the middle or something.

Lula x

Well the spinning sensation isn't something special, if you go to bed and start to imagine a spinning or falling sensation, it'll kick in after seconds.

Day 3

I was too tired to wake up, so nothing last night...I Remeber a couple of dreams but not all details.

Yikes... this thread is just getting more and more people participating.

Anyways. I think I woke myself up too much last night. Couldn't get back to sleep after SSILD for about 20-30 minutes.
I had a lucid, but that was most definitely not from SSILD. It was a WILD from the first dream of the night! Not really the most productive LD, I lost lucidity, but I needed to know if I could do it. I got it first try, so I need to ask some people some questions about it.

Day 7

total LDs:15
This is:
11 DILDs
3 WILD
1 DEILD

Week summary!

15 lucids in a week is definitely my record. My record for a month was 18 till this previous month jumped it up to 26, but the last 6 days I used SSILD.

So 15 lucids total. 13 for SSILD, one DEILD unconnected, one WILD unconnected. Very good results. This next week I will keep up my ADA and DDA but then the following two weeks I will only do SSILD. I will compare the results, taking in to account the fact that I am learning how to SSILD better.

@CosmicIron
Do you know if doing a WILD upon initial sleeping is bad for this technique? Does it have no effect? I have thought before that if I can gain awareness at the beginning of the night, I'd be able to keep it all night. My chances of becoming lucid after a lucid are extremely high. It doesn't work like that if my awareness drops in the lucid dream though. :/

BAH!!! I tried WBTB for the first time last night (at 5am) and I couldn't get back to sleep. I was only up for about ten minutes, and I was wide awake. But I learned something interesting: my REM cycle starts sometime BEFORE 5 am. I also got this weird feeling, like I was gradually being pulled into the abyss. My SSILDs always end up turning into WILD, but whenever I'm about to become lucid, something interrupts me.

I am living with a family of five, so even during the night there's always sudden noises. To make things worse, my sister's bunny plays "rocket ship" during the night, and he's incredibly loud. Also, my dog likes to freak out randomly. And right now, there's obnoxious construction going on. But thankfully, the gecko is silent (:

I suggest you not to use an alarm clock.
Just get into theta brainwaves using binaural beats, and say few times "I wake up many times a night". It works instantly.
I made some high quality theta binaural beats, I'll upload them later.

Originally Posted by BrandonBoss

Yikes... this thread is just getting more and more people participating.

Anyways. I think I woke myself up too much last night. Couldn't get back to sleep after SSILD for about 20-30 minutes.
I had a lucid, but that was most definitely not from SSILD. It was a WILD from the first dream of the night! Not really the most productive LD, I lost lucidity, but I needed to know if I could do it. I got it first try, so I need to ask some people some questions about it.

Day 7

total LDs:15
This is:
11 DILDs
3 WILD
1 DEILD

Week summary!

15 lucids in a week is definitely my record. My record for a month was 18 till this previous month jumped it up to 26, but the last 6 days I used SSILD.

So 15 lucids total. 13 for SSILD, one DEILD unconnected, one WILD unconnected. Very good results. This next week I will keep up my ADA and DDA but then the following two weeks I will only do SSILD. I will compare the results, taking in to account the fact that I am learning how to SSILD better.

@CosmicIron
Do you know if doing a WILD upon initial sleeping is bad for this technique? Does it have no effect? I have thought before that if I can gain awareness at the beginning of the night, I'd be able to keep it all night. My chances of becoming lucid after a lucid are extremely high. It doesn't work like that if my awareness drops in the lucid dream though. :/

Based on my observations doing WILD upon initial sleeping has little effect with SSILD. Personally I only did WILD this way in the early days when I was inexperienced and eager to get result. I really suggest you do the same -- get some really good sleep in the beginning without being concerned with LD, and have fun later when you are fully rested. It's both healthy and efficient

I'm new to lucid dreaming and have read a few of these threads. I've been trying the SSILD technique for a couple of nights now and managed to get 1 FA last night. I 'woke up' during the night and my clock said 7:14 but i forgot to do a RC and went back to sleep. Later that night I woke up for real and the clock said about half past 5, so I assume I must have had a FA.

Day 4

No results. My fault, though, I was lazy or too sleepy and missed some awakenings and fell asleep before I did hardly any of the technique.

I am also going to count the 2 days I really tried it before I started keeping track on here. So this is day 4, not 2.

Attempts: 4; Lucid dreams: 2; Non-lucid FAs: 2

CosmicIron, during an awakening is it better to wake yourself up enough to do all the cycles, or to stay sleepy to fall asleep during the cycles, even if you just do a few? And how do you think it best to handle getting distracted by random-falling-asleep-thoughts in the middle of the cycle?

Originally Posted by BrandonBoss

Yikes... this thread is just getting more and more people participating.

Anyways. I think I woke myself up too much last night. Couldn't get back to sleep after SSILD for about 20-30 minutes.
I had a lucid, but that was most definitely not from SSILD. It was a WILD from the first dream of the night! Not really the most productive LD, I lost lucidity, but I needed to know if I could do it. I got it first try, so I need to ask some people some questions about it.

Day 7

total LDs:15
This is:
11 DILDs
3 WILD
1 DEILD

Week summary!

15 lucids in a week is definitely my record. My record for a month was 18 till this previous month jumped it up to 26, but the last 6 days I used SSILD.

So 15 lucids total. 13 for SSILD, one DEILD unconnected, one WILD unconnected. Very good results. This next week I will keep up my ADA and DDA but then the following two weeks I will only do SSILD. I will compare the results, taking in to account the fact that I am learning how to SSILD better.

@CosmicIron
Do you know if doing a WILD upon initial sleeping is bad for this technique? Does it have no effect? I have thought before that if I can gain awareness at the beginning of the night, I'd be able to keep it all night. My chances of becoming lucid after a lucid are extremely high. It doesn't work like that if my awareness drops in the lucid dream though. :/

How in the world are you getting so many??? And how long does it take you to slip into a LD?

Originally Posted by Matt1

Day 4

No results. My fault, though, I was lazy or too sleepy and missed some awakenings and fell asleep before I did hardly any of the technique.

I am also going to count the 2 days I really tried it before I started keeping track on here. So this is day 4, not 2.

Attempts: 4; Lucid dreams: 2; Non-lucid FAs: 2

CosmicIron, during an awakening is it better to wake yourself up enough to do all the cycles, or to stay sleepy to fall asleep during the cycles, even if you just do a few? And how do you think it best to handle getting distracted by random-falling-asleep-thoughts in the middle of the cycle?

In general, waking up more sufficiently will have better result. However, some people may have trouble falling back to sleep. Thus I suggest waking up just a little bit before attempting the exercise. If you do choose not to get up, then you should be prepared to chain the exercise -- basically do a few cycles upon each awakening. This is actually how I normally do it and I usually succeed after the second attempt.

As for the random thoughts, as I said in the tutorial they are your friends. They help move you away from reality and into the dream state. Don't fight them, embrace them!

Originally Posted by aquafox12

How in the world are you getting so many??? And how long does it take you to slip into a LD?

It is not impossible my friend. Once you master this technique it will give you multiple LDs every day. Many people on my forum managed to record hundreds of LDs within just a few months. Just keep at it and you will be rewarded.

Originally Posted by CosmicIron

Based on my observations doing WILD upon initial sleeping has little effect with SSILD. Personally I only did WILD this way in the early days when I was inexperienced and eager to get result. I really suggest you do the same -- get some really good sleep in the beginning without being concerned with LD, and have fun later when you are fully rested. It's both healthy and efficient

I see, so does WILD upon initial sleep effect how much you actually rest? Can you use SSILD for naps?

I don't remember if I asked the nap question before.

Originally Posted by aquafox12

How in the world are you getting so many??? And how long does it take you to slip into a LD?

I have had 11 through SSILD, but I have had the previous version of SSILD that I trusted in and this one is supposed to be better.

Confidence
Awareness
Self-awareness
Imagination
Dream recall
Dream journal
Dedication
Sleep schedule
Expectation

These are the big parts of lucidity in my mind. But this technique only needs a few of them (as most do). These are:
Confidence
Dream recall
Sleep schedule
Expectation

And these are the things that have been getting me lucid, so when I see a tech that is all my strong points and has worked even before it was perfected, this makes confidence and expectation go up. My dream recall is close to 6 dreams a night before starting this, and my sleep schedule is set. Which yet again raises confidence and expectation. This is just my ideas on the matter. :/

cosmiciron what are your thoughts? (I hope you get paid for this tech or just love sharing lucid dreaming, because you have to answer a lot of questions, haha)

Originally Posted by BrandonBoss

I see, so does WILD upon initial sleep effect how much you actually rest?

I have asked this question, myself. I have actually had 8 hour long lucid dreams, and woken fully rested. This is only one account, but I have never seen any evidence to support the idea that lucid dreams interfere with the body or mind's recuperation/regeneration.

Thanks sloth.

Originally Posted by BrandonBoss

I see, so does WILD upon initial sleep effect how much you actually rest? Can you use SSILD for naps?

I don't remember if I asked the nap question before.



I have had 11 through SSILD, but I have had the previous version of SSILD that I trusted in and this one is supposed to be better.

Confidence
Awareness
Self-awareness
Imagination
Dream recall
Dream journal
Dedication
Sleep schedule
Expectation

These are the big parts of lucidity in my mind. But this technique only needs a few of them (as most do). These are:
Confidence
Dream recall
Sleep schedule
Expectation

And these are the things that have been getting me lucid, so when I see a tech that is all my strong points and has worked even before it was perfected, this makes confidence and expectation go up. My dream recall is close to 6 dreams a night before starting this, and my sleep schedule is set. Which yet again raises confidence and expectation. This is just my ideas on the matter. :/

cosmiciron what are your thoughts? (I hope you get paid for this tech or just love sharing lucid dreaming, because you have to answer a lot of questions, haha)

LOL. If I'm out of job then I will consider packaging this stuff into a DVD and put up a web site which has nothing valuable on it and everything you click on will take you to a page to enter your credit card information. Isn't that a dream come true? Hahaha. Anyway, I like your list. Very thorough indeed.

I guess this is just kind of a general progress thread at this point, considering everyone has different starting dates. Well, I'm throwing my hat in the ring. I think I'll test out this supposedly foolproof method for myself. The critical acclaim seems almost universally positive, at least in this thread.

Lucid: 0
False Awakening: 0

Day 4

Again, no luck at all, though my dreams are vivid .

Frobthebuilder, add the day or the number of attempts as well. It helps to make it clearer how succesful the technic is being for you...

Day 4

Alarm woke me up after 6 hours of sleep and out of a dream. I got up, went to the bathroom. This time I really got me exposed to light and also washed my hands with cold water, things I was avoiding because I didn't want to wake myself too much... Then I went to bed and, as I was more awake than usual, I was capable of completing the cycles. Nevertheless, I was still drowsy enough to lose count andhavewandering thoughts. After the long cycles I rolled to my side and tried to fall asleep while trying to do some extra cycles. It didn't take long for me o lose consciousness.

Unfortunatelly, once again there was no lucidity. Neither was there any vividness. And dream recall wasn't great either, just some very small fragments. I wonder if the fact that in my last three attempts I was out of my sleep schedule could be hindering a faster progress...

Lucids: 0, FAs: 0, OBEs: 0

Attempt 1

I went to bed around 3AM, and when I woke up, it was to people standing in the room right outside my bedroom door, talking. Getting back to sleep was tough. Anyway, I practiced a few cycles and fell asleep. Didn't notice anything really different about the dreams I had after that.

Lucid: 0
False Awakening: 0

Originally Posted by Frobthebuilder

Attempt 1

I went to bed around 3AM, and when I woke up, it was to people standing in the room right outside my bedroom door, talking. Getting back to sleep was tough. Anyway, I practiced a few cycles and fell asleep. Didn't notice anything really different about the dreams I had after that.

Lucid: 0
False Awakening: 0

Going to bed at 3am is way too late. You need to have sufficient sleep for this thing to work. Even though nowadays I achieve near 100% success rate with this technique I'd not practice it when I go to bed late. It's just too much effort that way and not healthy either.

2 very vivid dreams last night. I didn't try to get lucid cause I was really stressed out and just wanted to fall asleep quickly :I

Day 27, 28, 29

No time, no attempt, no result.

Attempts: 13, Lucids: 7, OBE's: 1, FA's: 15, HI's: 2