Thread: The SSILD test. - 30 days.

Originally Posted by Buhl

Hey CosmicIron.

I am sorry if it sounds like i am putting SSILD into a category.

I meant to say that i have only tried it as a supplementary technique, and as such, only able to review it like that. I am very confident that it will work on it's own, but again, i have not tested it.
Also, normally SSILD puts me to sleep like a baby, so i know it's hypnotising element and all in all i believe it is one of the best techniques i have tried.

Cheers back @ you.

No need to apologize. I was not offended anyway and I won't mind at all if SSILD turned out to be the ultimate supplementary technique, LOL.

Originally Posted by BrandonBoss

day 4

one lucid last night. Felt a little under the weather and it effected my awareness in dreams. hopefully feel better tonight. My lucid last night was like 5 seconds. :/

total LDs:13

This is:
10 DILDs
2 WILD
1 DEILD

Wow, you're getting good.

Day 26

Another lucid and false awakening.

Here's the account: Lucid Dream 33 - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Attempts: 13, Lucids: 7, OBE's: 1, FA's: 15, HI's: 2

I hope it works. I used the SSILD and had a LD but im not sure if it was coincidence because I was WILDing too.

Hmmm... I do meditate, but visual meditate, not just the empty yourself meditate. I might try it without for the last two weeks.

No luck for me last night, but I hadn't really been thinking about LD'ing as much the day before, so I think that made an impact. I woke up about 5 hours into my sleep, decided to do SSILD, but I didn't get up out of bed or anything and I think I fell asleep too quickly. My dreams were vivid and I remember feeling shocked and confused about some of the crazy stuff that was happening, but I never called it out. I woke up again at around 11 in the morning. I'd literally just come out of a really vivid dream and when I woke up, I kept really still, with my eyes closed, so I thought, "Hmm, why not try for a DEILD?" But then, I couldn't get back into it, I don't think I was tired enough to fall back asleep, so I thought about trying SSILD again, but there were fireworks going off outside and I just couldn't get into that trance state. Damn! Weirdly, I still feel really exhausted and I'm yawning loads. Maybe I'll try sleeping in the afternoon.

I'm doing the 30 day trial and I'm starting from last night, so really I shouldn't count my first LD.
So,
Attempts: 2
Lucids: 0
FAs: 0

Lula x

My attempts have been inconsistent with the amount of days its been going on for. I had a few lucids from this technique, but I think I'll have to wait for a nice amount of free time to actually do this. I'll start another thread about it when I do.

I'll have to really try this method. I've actually been doing it a little the last 3 days and got some results - 1 (spontaneous) DILD and 2 definite dream initiated FAs, with 2 more possible FAs (however I didn't catch the FAs until I woke up for real later on - gotta get back in the habit of RCing instantly upon realizing I am 'awake.') So it works at least as good as the MILDing I've been doing. I typically wake up 4-5 times per night now, about 75% of those times the last 3 nights I did like 2 or 3 short cycles before falling asleep, apparently. Plus I've been getting over the congestion from a cold, so that is pretty distracting. I also keep a DJ and do RCs every 90 minutes while I am awake, as I have for the past several weeks.

Tonight I'll start the test for real and really try to get in the 4-6 short cycles plus the long cycles during at least some of my awakenings. I'll also do it without white noise (except when first going to sleep) so it isn't too easy to fall back asleep and so I focus on the listening and not the sound itself as you said CosmicIron.

Originally Posted by BrandonBoss

day 4
...
total LDs:13
This is:
10 DILDs
2 WILD
1 DEILD

Wow! You are, like, a boss at this or something.

Day 5

Not really a good night. Tired because I am a bit sick so I only woke up once last night and fell asleep during SSILD

total LDs:13
This is:
10 DILDs
2 WILD
1 DEILD

I've tried this technique three times, and each time after a while, my body starts doing little random twitches, and my head starts to spin. It kinda scared me at first, cause I felt like I was gonna roll off the couch. Also, my eyes were going wacko, like I was looking at a strobelight. Then everything goes away. I dunno what to do from there...

Originally Posted by aquafox12

I've tried this technique three times, and each time after a while, my body starts doing little random twitches, and my head starts to spin. It kinda scared me at first, cause I felt like I was gonna roll off the couch. Also, my eyes were going wacko, like I was looking at a strobelight. Then everything goes away. I dunno what to do from there...

Sigh... many people would kill to get the kind of sensations you felt. These strange sensations are prelude to entering the dream state while being completely conscious. When encountering these you should remain calm and go with the flow, perhaps mentally nudge them a little bit so their effects become more pronounced. This will eventually bring you into a dream, and should you choose to roll out of bed before that, an OBE.

day 3

Alarm woke me up after some5 hours of sleep. The dream I was in was somewhat vivid and long. I tried the cycles, but a thought in the back of my head kept trying to count them. I fought such thought, but I am sure it got in the way. Anyway, I did some long cycles and got to sleep, probably during the sixth cycle.

Then I had a dream of me walking around the house. quickly came to the conclusion that I should be in bed sleeping instead of walking about. Then I woke up, right before lucidity. It was a very short dream and when i woke up i felt something in my legs that could well develop into sleep paralysis. I chose to ignore it and try getting back to sleep with some more cycles. However other people in the house were already awake and kept making noises, so after a while I just gave it up altogether and here I am right now.


Lucids: 0, FAs: 0, OBEs: 0, HIs: 0

Day1: 2nd lucid dream I ever had!!

So I had been dreaming A LOT of things and the dreams were very vivid. Somewhere along one of my dreams I was sitting in a chair in a modern villa with those big open windows and it was snowing and I could really see the snow hitting the window from the outside , it was just so super-realistic! But anyways, now on to the lucid dream.
So after about 5 hours of sleep my alarm went of, I went to the bathroom and then returned and layed down. I tried SSILD, but somehow it didn't seem to work. I just could not focus enough on the visual part of the technique and after about 20 minutes I gave up on it. I thought that if that didn't work maybe I could WILD. But that didn't work either and I quickly after I fell asleep. I then woke up 2 hours later and recorded the dreams that I had, cause I was worried that I wouldn't remember them. I then again fell asleep and this is where I had my second lucid!!
I was flying over a city and it was (again as in my first lucid) very dark. The city also wasn't much detailed at all, the buildings were just blocks and cubics. I also (again) had the feeling that something scary was going to happen because of the darkness. So I thought to myself "I want to go somewhere sunny", and closed my eyes. When I opened them I saw that nothing had changed (I thought!). I was hovering above the city and there was also a big sea to the left. Suddenly the sun set and it was really beautiful. First it was orange as it gently appeard on the horizon. I could see the shimmering on the water and then moments later it was fully shining. The city itself was a little 'hazy' and not that clear, but I didn't focus on it anyway. Alright, so the darkness had dissapeard and the first thing that crossed my mind was to look for some details, things to look at. I wanted to see something vivid and clear. I flew a little bit further and saw a little boat next to te shore. I flew down and saw 4 people sitting on there knees in the middle of the boat. They were trying to break the floor with their shovels. As I wanted to see 'details' I went closer and looked at the floor. First the floor cracked and came out, but like just in 1 piece. I was dissapointed at how shalow that had been. But then someone slammed his shovel into the floor and I could see little cracks appearing and was glad it was so realistic (I know, not very interesting, but still :p )
Then suddenly I had an eagle vision from above and saw another boat coming in really fast. Back on the boat I was standing at the beginning of the boat and was not looking at the direction from which the other boat approached. Then "BAM" I heared the other boat crash into the back of our boat and saw the 4 people panicking and screaming. 2 managed to escape but a man and a woman didn't and ran to the very beginning of the boat to run away from the other boat, who already had pierced into our boat and literally split it. Because of the crash the woman fell over the railing, but the man reaches out to her and pulls her back on, but she dies. And then suddenly the man gets brutaly pierced by a spear. After that I get to watch a cutscene from some monsters who come from behind the corner and come running towards me. (It are monsters from a game I played before going to bed :p ) The cutscene ends and suddenly I'm playing this character behind my pc in my room. So I know I'm lucid and can do everything I want, so I go into the settings and set every power to the max. Back in game and superpowerfull I begin clicking on my left mouse button, but it doesn't seem to work because my character doesn't attack. I realise that I must have changed the controls in the settings :p I remember that it had changed to a key on my keyboard so I press it. It works and my character slices one monster and he dies immediately. (I don't actually see myself sitting at my computer, it's like I have a full view of the game, but like in the background I feel myself sitting and clicking)
Here's where it becomes interesting
Suddenly the view changes and I actually see myself sitting there and I hear my brother coming into my room behind me. As I am lucid and don't want him to interrupt and end my dream (I actually thought at that moment that I was awake, but it's wierd because on the other hand know I am lucid...It seems like my lucidity and knowing that it's a dream rappidly changes back and forth, because when I think back on it now, in the part with the boat and the crash I was not lucid and simply looking at what happened. It's not really clear to me...could it be that I'm dreaming I'm lucid in a dream?)
So as my brother is coming in (still looking at my computer) I begin shouting and cursing at him for knowing he will 'break' the lucidity. At that moment I'm starting to doubt myself and I'm thinking that maybe I'm still dreaming...(I know It's really confusing that at one moment I am lucid, and then the other moment I think I'm awake, but still thinking I'm lucid in my dream and PFFFF sorry if this is really hard to follow) So as I doubt that I'm actually dreaming and NOT awake, I open my curtain and become supershocked to see that my street is completely different from what it is in real life. I now realise that I am still dreaming and nothing of this is real (because it was very realistic and everything felt very real). I also realise that this brother wasn't my real brother and tried to decieve me (to believe he WAS real) . So I turn around and look at him (for the first time because he now had entered) and I rush towards him. I begin punching him because I was just really scared that I actually believed he was real. I was really shocked of knowing that all of this was not real and had been created to deceive me. I drag my 'brother' to the window and hysterically shout that this is not the street we actually live in and I feel scared. I grab my brother's both arms and we struggle and trie to reach the upper hand on one another. I felt so betrayed that I wanted to actually kill him. Of anger I began squeezing his wrists and wanted to hurt him. But then suddenly everything fades away and, still feeling myself squeezing his wrists, I realize that I'm actually squeezing my own wrist as I lay in my bed.

So yeah that was dream; I hope it wasn't thàt confusing to read...Is it possible that like Lucidity and non-lucidity change rappidly? Because I have the feeling that might be the case with me. But still day 1 and having my second lucid dream I'm proud of it!

Oh yeah, I also think I had a false awakening in one of the dreams before the lucid one. I woke up and my bedsheet was laying over my head. My arms were crossed and I could only see my arms and the surface of my bedsheet above my head. Then very scary...a hand comes crawling from behind my arms...I was scared to death but it wasn't over yet! I then feel 2 hands grabbing my ankles and working their way up. I couldn't do anything...I then feel them trying to pull me out of my bed into the darkness, away from under my bedsheet...Very scary!

Greetz!

30 days SSILD:

Lucid: 1
FA: 1
SSILD: 0
WILD: 0

Originally Posted by dreamstudent123

Day1: 2nd lucid dream I ever had!!

So I had been dreaming A LOT of things and the dreams were very vivid. Somewhere along one of my dreams I was sitting in a chair in a modern villa with those big open windows and it was snowing and I could really see the snow hitting the window from the outside , it was just so super-realistic! But anyways, now on to the lucid dream.
So after about 5 hours of sleep my alarm went of, I went to the bathroom and then returned and layed down. I tried SSILD, but somehow it didn't seem to work. I just could not focus enough on the visual part of the technique and after about 20 minutes I gave up on it. I thought that if that didn't work maybe I could WILD. But that didn't work either and I quickly after I fell asleep. I then woke up 2 hours later and recorded the dreams that I had, cause I was worried that I wouldn't remember them. I then again fell asleep and this is where I had my second lucid!!
I was flying over a city and it was (again as in my first lucid) very dark. The city also wasn't much detailed at all, the buildings were just blocks and cubics. I also (again) had the feeling that something scary was going to happen because of the darkness. So I thought to myself "I want to go somewhere sunny", and closed my eyes. When I opened them I saw that nothing had changed (I thought!). I was hovering above the city and there was also a big sea to the left. Suddenly the sun set and it was really beautiful. First it was orange as it gently appeard on the horizon. I could see the shimmering on the water and then moments later it was fully shining. The city itself was a little 'hazy' and not that clear, but I didn't focus on it anyway. Alright, so the darkness had dissapeard and the first thing that crossed my mind was to look for some details, things to look at. I wanted to see something vivid and clear. I flew a little bit further and saw a little boat next to te shore. I flew down and saw 4 people sitting on there knees in the middle of the boat. They were trying to break the floor with their shovels. As I wanted to see 'details' I went closer and looked at the floor. First the floor cracked and came out, but like just in 1 piece. I was dissapointed at how shalow that had been. But then someone slammed his shovel into the floor and I could see little cracks appearing and was glad it was so realistic (I know, not very interesting, but still :p )
Then suddenly I had an eagle vision from above and saw another boat coming in really fast. Back on the boat I was standing at the beginning of the boat and was not looking at the direction from which the other boat approached. Then "BAM" I heared the other boat crash into the back of our boat and saw the 4 people panicking and screaming. 2 managed to escape but a man and a woman didn't and ran to the very beginning of the boat to run away from the other boat, who already had pierced into our boat and literally split it. Because of the crash the woman fell over the railing, but the man reaches out to her and pulls her back on, but she dies. And then suddenly the man gets brutaly pierced by a spear. After that I get to watch a cutscene from some monsters who come from behind the corner and come running towards me. (It are monsters from a game I played before going to bed :p ) The cutscene ends and suddenly I'm playing this character behind my pc in my room. So I know I'm lucid and can do everything I want, so I go into the settings and set every power to the max. Back in game and superpowerfull I begin clicking on my left mouse button, but it doesn't seem to work because my character doesn't attack. I realise that I must have changed the controls in the settings :p I remember that it had changed to a key on my keyboard so I press it. It works and my character slices one monster and he dies immediately. (I don't actually see myself sitting at my computer, it's like I have a full view of the game, but like in the background I feel myself sitting and clicking)
Here's where it becomes interesting
Suddenly the view changes and I actually see myself sitting there and I hear my brother coming into my room behind me. As I am lucid and don't want him to interrupt and end my dream (I actually thought at that moment that I was awake, but it's wierd because on the other hand know I am lucid...It seems like my lucidity and knowing that it's a dream rappidly changes back and forth, because when I think back on it now, in the part with the boat and the crash I was not lucid and simply looking at what happened. It's not really clear to me...could it be that I'm dreaming I'm lucid in a dream?)
So as my brother is coming in (still looking at my computer) I begin shouting and cursing at him for knowing he will 'break' the lucidity. At that moment I'm starting to doubt myself and I'm thinking that maybe I'm still dreaming...(I know It's really confusing that at one moment I am lucid, and then the other moment I think I'm awake, but still thinking I'm lucid in my dream and PFFFF sorry if this is really hard to follow) So as I doubt that I'm actually dreaming and NOT awake, I open my curtain and become supershocked to see that my street is completely different from what it is in real life. I now realise that I am still dreaming and nothing of this is real (because it was very realistic and everything felt very real). I also realise that this brother wasn't my real brother and tried to decieve me (to believe he WAS real) . So I turn around and look at him (for the first time because he now had entered) and I rush towards him. I begin punching him because I was just really scared that I actually believed he was real. I was really shocked of knowing that all of this was not real and had been created to deceive me. I drag my 'brother' to the window and hysterically shout that this is not the street we actually live in and I feel scared. I grab my brother's both arms and we struggle and trie to reach the upper hand on one another. I felt so betrayed that I wanted to actually kill him. Of anger I began squeezing his wrists and wanted to hurt him. But then suddenly everything fades away and, still feeling myself squeezing his wrists, I realize that I'm actually squeezing my own wrist as I lay in my bed.

So yeah that was dream; I hope it wasn't thàt confusing to read...Is it possible that like Lucidity and non-lucidity change rappidly? Because I have the feeling that might be the case with me. But still day 1 and having my second lucid dream I'm proud of it!

Oh yeah, I also think I had a false awakening in one of the dreams before the lucid one. I woke up and my bedsheet was laying over my head. My arms were crossed and I could only see my arms and the surface of my bedsheet above my head. Then very scary...a hand comes crawling from behind my arms...I was scared to death but it wasn't over yet! I then feel 2 hands grabbing my ankles and working their way up. I couldn't do anything...I then feel them trying to pull me out of my bed into the darkness, away from under my bedsheet...Very scary!

Greetz!

30 days SSILD:

Lucid: 1
FA: 1
SSILD: 0
WILD: 0

Well done! I'd like to point out a couple of things though:

1. With SSILD you are not supposed to go after immediate effects. Instead, you should finish the routines and go to sleep as quickly as possible. Delaying it won't do you much good.

2. The FA you experienced was more SP than FA, both happen frequently after doing SSILD so you should be prepared. Don't be afraid as they are completely harmless. Learn to identify them and utilize them will greatly increase your chances.

Day 6

Still feeling under the weather. Has some fun dreams and had 1 LD.

total LDs:14
This is:
11 DILDs
2 WILD
1 DEILD

Thanks for the tips CosmicIron!

Originally Posted by dreamstudent123

and after about 20 minutes

oh god please

it takes 5 minutes at most

Originally Posted by CosmicIron

Sigh... many people would kill to get the kind of sensations you felt. These strange sensations are prelude to entering the dream state while being completely conscious. When encountering these you should remain calm and go with the flow, perhaps mentally nudge them a little bit so their effects become more pronounced. This will eventually bring you into a dream, and should you choose to roll out of bed before that, an OBE.

Have you done it before, and if so, HOW did you get inside that dream. It happened to me again just yesterday, and I decided to just "ride" the spinning sensation. I started to see some weird images that made absolutely NO sense, so I thought, "Oh, these must be the hypnogogic images! Maybe I should wait and see if they form a dream." But nothing formed, just more random jerking and weird patterns. I must have been like that for 30 minutes. Suddenly, (I don't know why), I was in my kitchen just staring at some yogurt (don't mock me!), and it felt so clear and real, but then it went away.

Then my dad called me (I was napping), and I totally snapped out of it. Ugh! So annoying! I wish this stupid dream would just hurry up already, and I don't recall any SP at all, just tingling. Also, when I'm "spinning", it gets to the point where I feel wrapped up, and everything is all tight. And it only lasts for a short while. What should I do???

(Oh, and I don't really meditate or perform mantras. And lately, my dreams have been EXTREMELY vivid, and are actually making more sense than usual).

Hey, I've tried doing DEILD at like, 5 am, but my phone alarm just keeps ringing until I turn it off. Same thing with my alarm clock. So, lately I've just been laying there, doing SSILD, but then I just fall asleep and have a vivid dream. I don't wanna do WBTB cause my whole family is asleep, and my eyes are extremely sensitive to sudden light (I have epilepsy).

Everytime I SSILD I get lucid, im going to try again tonight and see if its not coincidence. It was funny to, my little sister saw meswimming through the air and she looked so shocked it made me laugh. (:

Originally Posted by aquafox12

Have you done it before, and if so, HOW did you get inside that dream. It happened to me again just yesterday, and I decided to just "ride" the spinning sensation. I started to see some weird images that made absolutely NO sense, so I thought, "Oh, these must be the hypnogogic images! Maybe I should wait and see if they form a dream." But nothing formed, just more random jerking and weird patterns. I must have been like that for 30 minutes. Suddenly, (I don't know why), I was in my kitchen just staring at some yogurt (don't mock me!), and it felt so clear and real, but then it went away.

Then my dad called me (I was napping), and I totally snapped out of it. Ugh! So annoying! I wish this stupid dream would just hurry up already, and I don't recall any SP at all, just tingling. Also, when I'm "spinning", it gets to the point where I feel wrapped up, and everything is all tight. And it only lasts for a short while. What should I do???

(Oh, and I don't really meditate or perform mantras. And lately, my dreams have been EXTREMELY vivid, and are actually making more sense than usual).

All right, so I guess that's another perfect SSILD-initiated lucid dream experience spoiled There are many ways to deal with these hypnagogic sensations. For the kinesthetic ones such as spinning, sliding, falling, and etc., you should mentally ride them so they increase their ranges. Once you feel the range has increased sufficiently you can perform an RC and roll out of bed to have an OBE. Or you can keep increasing the range until you get swung right into your dreams -- similar to your yogurt-staring one, LOL. For the visual ones you should passively observe, and try not to talk to yourself or analyze what you see. If all goes well you will see dream scenes forming in front of you. Once the scene becomes clear you can try reaching into it, for example, grab something, and that will throw you into the dream. For the audio ones you can try mentally increasing the sound level. Once they become loud enough you can do an RC and it will usually succeed. Personally as soon as I encounter these sensations I can "shift" myself right into the dream state. I won't recommend this though because it does take some practice. However, you don't want to wait too long when these sensations occur because you risk waking up that way.

Swinging into a dream is a weird feeling, I have only done it twice, but it is like you are spinning and falling and then suddenly! bam! You are in a scene. Not spinning, not falling. I haven't had it happen with SSILD yet, but I hope I do.

Originally Posted by CosmicIron

All right, so I guess that's another perfect SSILD-initiated lucid dream experience spoiled There are many ways to deal with these hypnagogic sensations. For the kinesthetic ones such as spinning, sliding, falling, and etc., you should mentally ride them so they increase their ranges. Once you feel the range has increased sufficiently you can perform an RC and roll out of bed to have an OBE. Or you can keep increasing the range until you get swung right into your dreams -- similar to your yogurt-staring one, LOL. For the visual ones you should passively observe, and try not to talk to yourself or analyze what you see. If all goes well you will see dream scenes forming in front of you. Once the scene becomes clear you can try reaching into it, for example, grab something, and that will throw you into the dream. For the audio ones you can try mentally increasing the sound level. Once they become loud enough you can do an RC and it will usually succeed. Personally as soon as I encounter these sensations I can "shift" myself right into the dream state. I won't recommend this though because it does take some practice. However, you don't want to wait too long when these sensations occur because you risk waking up that way.

Wait, how do I go about performing the RC? Do I imagine myself doing it, or do I physically do it? Cause I'm perfectly aware that I am laying down while these crazy things are happening. Haha I can imagine how weird that would look for my family to see me rolling off the couch XD I'm just a little weirded out by all this, cause I've never been lucid before (except a few brief moments where I told myself to wake up from a nightmare). And I think the reason the yogurt thing went away was because I was afraid that I would fall asleep. Agh, it was so frustrating! I was thinking to myself, "No! I can't fall asleep now!" And then I jerked awake.

Day 1

After the 5th awakening, 7.5 hours of sleep, I spontaneously became lucid. This spontaneous (as opposed to through reality checks) lucidity is the same kind I got 2 days ago when trying this method a little.

Attempts: 1; Lucids: 1

CosmicIron, is this method known to work somewhat even if only maybe 3 short cycles are done as I fall asleep? (or maybe I did more and forgot due to falling asleep) And is it known to generally cause spontaneous DILDs?

EDIT: Or maybe I got one through subconscious pressure to have something to post about here. Well whatever works.