Thread: New Technique, TILD.

I'm working on my method, that I hope, will serve me for the rest of my life. I think that actually, your method is a sub genre of the method I want to develop.
HILD! - Habit Induced Lucid Dream. It also can be called "Automatically becoming lucid". The reason you thought it will be the ultimate way to induce a dream is because it'll happen automatically\naturally right?
I want my subconscious to work with me; instead of me trying to force it with my conscious.
So basically everything that will become a habit, and work by itself is part of that.
What I'm trying to learn to do now is to WILD; But I'm not doing any visualizations or anything. I'm trying to sharpen my sense of when I start to drift away and then start to dream. I'm also trying to stay conscious while me sub-conscious starts to dream. I hope to make it more and more precise; and hopefully becoming a master of it. If I miss the moment - I'll wake-up a few hours later, a bit dissapainted; and if I'll have to much awareness - I won't fall a sleep. Obviously I prefer to try more times, so I could learn more; so we are talking about some long nights here j-: Thank got I don't have a job. B-D
Yesterday, it worked. I saw a blurry image that only in the middle of it I saw something; and only after a moment I realized I'm seeing an image. And then I made it clear, and a lucid began.
So that you'll understand, I was able to have a few WILDs naturally; only a few months ago, when I began to learn about Lucid Dreaming.
So with time, I hope it'll become a more and more automatic process. I hope it's approximately what you meant.

So did you progress with your method??

Oh, I can effectively use it if I mean to, but generally stick with DILD. I don't think its ultimate, as it is kind of a RC for the waking-sleeping in-between. I wonder though what would happen if it were to become an habit.

I do think though, that habit makes it easier to LD, as I have seen with people who are good at LDing, the more they practice, the easier it becomes it seems.

Well, I think that if a person can develop even a bad habit (a one he doesn't want), then why, this cannot become a habit?
When you do something a lot of times - connections in the brain are forming and becoming more prevalent.
That's probably why people have it easier LDing with more experience.

I looked in the threads started by you to see your methods but didn't find any.
Do you have a place where you explain your best methods; how you achieve it?
BTW I love nightmares too. There are two kinds: scary (though, don't remember for a long time); and ones that are suppose to be scary but I'm not scared at all.
When I was little - I really got scared by them, and I hated nightmares; now it's fun. :-)

I don't really read a lot in the forum. Who did you see that had the most LD count other then you; and how much was it? And I guess the period of time, also matters.

Oh, I have never explained in detail how I become lucid (In DV), I just use the regular DILD/RC, and use gravity as my RC. Always trying to extend each RC for long periods of time so that it becomes more effective.

And people with more lucids than me, iadr and luminous, lumi is a natural, iadr is a WILDer, Naiya used to have more, and then school came and ruined it.

I tried once for 3 strait days RCing like crazy. It didn't do anything for me so I stopped. Strangely, it worked the best for me when I didn't do pretty much anything.
So you find yourself doing RCs in a dream and become lucid?

Yup, most of my LDs come from RCs, around, 99% of them. Though gravity RC is somewhat different from other RCs, as it doesn't requires you to stop and do anything extra to dp tje RC.

How doe's that work?
Anyway I'll report progress. So far for two days I couldn't achieve lucidity.

Well, I focus on my weight at all times, so, moving and going around my daily life is actually beneficial to the RC, even typing helps with it.

"Constant awareness". Alright, wrote it to myself. Thanks.

Ayup, at least body awareness.

Wait, wait, so this method is like you automatically become lucid at the start of a dream, without having to wake yourself up or use RCs? Because I think I might already do this...

Yes, something like that. Though it should be "become lucid before a dream starts without the need of waking up in-between" yup. And I wouldn't call it a method, I was trying to get research done on it to actually use it as anything, there isn't much luck as of yet, though.

So basically, you just pay attention to your body? IE: When your writing or typing, you focus on how in feels in your hands. When you walk, you focus on how it feels in your legs. etc?

This idea sounds really cool. The greatest difficulty that I see with this technique is that one would have to realize what is happening immediately after transitioning out of the absolute void of deep N-REM sleep.

I think that if this technique were mastered, however, it would be the ultimate induction technique. No sleep loss would be necessary, lucids would start from the very beginning of the dream, and it doesn't rely on any dream signs to show up. The formation of the dream itself would be the ultimate dream sign.

Originally Posted by rynkrt3

So basically, you just pay attention to your body? IE: When your writing or typing, you focus on how in feels in your hands. When you walk, you focus on how it feels in your legs. etc?

Nop, you concentrate on how it feels when a dream forms, or create a fake sensation in order to use it as a RC.

Ah, gonna try AscendedSleeper? I need waaaaay more data.

Oh well I think I've been doing this on my own, already. I've been lucid dreaming since I was a kid, and in the last couple years when I lucid dream I don't have to use RCs, and I've never had to wake myself up, or anything. Well, I didn't realize people actually used techniques to get themselves to lucid dreams until recently. Anyways, Once I enter a dream I just immediately become aware that I'm dreaming without really doing anything. I don't really have any control, though, so I don't know how useful I am to you. I usually only lucid dream this way on weekends when I have lots of sleep, too.

Well, simply giving data is enough, control isn't really important for this, so thanks.

Sure. I'm a noob, so I still don't know much about this kind of stuff. Either way, I'd be happy to help you out if I can.

Originally Posted by Hukif

Nop, you concentrate on how it feels when a dream forms, or create a fake sensation in order to use it as a RC.

Ah, gonna try AscendedSleeper? I need waaaaay more data.

I was talking about your RC, you said you focus on your body all day...

Ah, gonna try AscendedSleeper? I need waaaaay more data.

I am definitely going to devote some lucid time to note what the dream feels like in more detail. Your technique seems like it would fit very nicely within my current routine, and the idea of becoming lucid at the start of a dream without WILDing fascinates me.

To answer your question, I am planning on giving it a try. If I actually end up spending an adequate amount of time learning TILD I will give you my data.

Originally Posted by rynkrt3

I was talking about your RC, you said you focus on your body all day...

Ah gravity RC, then yes <.<
Made a post about that one not long ago, actually. But it is posted over mm so yeah, you would have to go there to read.

AscendedSleeper, awesome! Thanks for the participation guys/girls, it means a lot.

Originally Posted by Hukif

Ah gravity RC, then yes <.<
Made a post about that one not long ago, actually. But it is posted over mm so yeah, you would have to go there to read.

AscendedSleeper, awesome! Thanks for the participation guys/girls, it means a lot.

mm?

Uh, google mortal mist? Can't post links to that page.

Originally Posted by Hukif

Uh, google mortal mist? Can't post links to that page.

What happens if you do? The FBI get alerted.