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      Great movie. It sums it all up nicely.

      I hope most people have at least a general understanding of this. Maybe I'm overestimating people? I think the hard part is integrating it into our daily lives. So far, there seems to be no real practical reason for people to care about this philosophy/ truth. It doesn't really threaten or reward people into living their lives differently.

      And I have to say the Look Who's Talking trilogy was the best ever. Or was that the worst?... I can't remember.

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      I don't like that the 'consciousness creating reality' thing has become the popular view of what scientists think, it isn't. I think a more plausible explanation for the collapse of a wave function is that a conscious observer is only capable of perceiving one aspect of the infinite possibilities. The wave function of the particle continues as is, but the conscious observer now perceives it as a particle.

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      Maybe the dream state is just the expression of our duality. We have the waking particle world, while the dream state is all about waveform probabilities.

      While in waking world where wave forms have collapsed in to solid matter, it difficult to conceive how it couldn't be real. But that solid matter comes from a wave form first, and the control learned in the waveform realms of sleep would still be valid in the waking world. Just like we can make things solid and real in dream. Both modes of operation apply equally well to either reality.

      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      I think a more plausible explanation for the collapse of a wave function is that a conscious observer is only capable of perceiving one aspect of the infinite possibilities. The wave function of the particle continues as is, but the conscious observer now perceives it as a particle.
      Never heard or thought of that before, but I like it a lot! I'm going to have to take some time to digest it.
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      "Life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves."

      That line does a great deal in terms of summing up my own ideas about the nature of the universe. I do in fact believe that we are analogous to dream characters, fragmented bits of consciousness derived from the mind of a greater being. Dream characters, after all, are no more than pieces of our own mind divided and realized in another reality that they are individually bound to. Reality, in this sense, is borne entirely from consciousness. The dreamworld reality for any dream character is borne from the mind of the dreamer. You can see where I'm going with this.

      Am I making sense?

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      Quote Originally Posted by invader_tech View Post
      "Life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves."

      Am I making sense?
      Makes sense to me! I see I'm not the only one who recognized the guy at the end from that Tool album.


      I'd like people's thoughts on the following.

      Waveform = Schema

      And I don't mean waveform as in a snakey or spikey graphed out line, but as in the sum total of possibilities, if it can even be though of that way. Again I need time to ruminate on that one, but I'd like to hear anyone else's thoughts in the meantime.

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