Thread: Say what about Oneironauts??? NO WAY MAN!

Originally Posted by SEBSTER

Im a Graffiti Writer, im a Punk, im a Film Student, im 16, a Party Animal and a Oneironaut....

I'm 23, trying to get a computer science degree, was a party animal until last semester, now I'm getting my life straightened out, and yeah, I'm also an Oneironaut.

My advice, if they reacted weird, just don't mention it to those people anymore. You probably won't be able to convince them otherwise. The great majority of people I talked about LDing to looked at me funny, so after I realized I couldn't convince them of anything related to that, I don't talk to them about it anymore.

That's the beauty of lucid dreaming, it's all in your head... all you. Aside from keeping a dream journal and doing reality checks, no one needs to know about it, but deep inside, you know how awesome it is, and what all those people are missing. Read up on the quote of my signature...

toatlly, or i just let them borrow Waking Life..

There will always be those people who refuse to accept the notion that one could truly be conscious in their dreams. To those people, lucid dreaming is along the lines of astrology, tarot cards, palm reading and other far-fetched, unprovable ideas. They view it as simple fairy tales. What they don't realize is that LDing is not only absolutely true and possible but that it has been scientifically proven beyond doubt. It's not science fiction - it's science fact.

You and we know what they are missing. They never will if they choose not to believe. It's kind of like prayer, voodoo and other mind games: It only works if you believe it's possible (as a general rule). LDing is no mere placebo but, it does help to believe in its possibility.

Yea, i got that, too. then i told them I felt sad for them cause they missing out on some out of this world SEX(sex in dreams). #&^$&, i being have sex with blank blank blank!!!! HAHAHA

This is where they usually say: hmmm whats it call, again? (in the back of their mind, oh i want to learn too.)

sorry just joking

Hey, I'm 39 and I recently told my best friend (since junior high!) about my little hobby. And, I did it because he was freaked out about having SP once or twice. After I told him about it, he looked at me like he felt a little sorry for me that I could think something so stupid. He's not holding it against me, but still....

I don't tell people about it, generally. I find that there are those who are "initiated" -- LDers, both accidental and purposeful -- and those who are not. To the uninitiated, it is mere fantasy. To the initiated, it is great fantasy. =)

Originally Posted by SEBSTER

so this topic is to ask...what do u do???

Im a Graffiti Writer, im a Punk, im a Film Student, im 16, a Party Animal and a Oneironaut....
howbout everyone else??

I'm "awesome years old", digital artist, jewelry maker, cupcake lover, gamer, cosplayer, lolita lover, loner, ex-party animal, weird crazy person :p, heart broken and a bit lost, and an Oneironaut!

Nice topic BTW, I wish more people would have answered your question.

Well, what other hobby can you perform while asleep? Ask him that.

Just tell them it is a scientific proven FACT and not any new age or religious hooha and feel sorry for them.

Also might work if you stopped smearing graphiti everywhere and stopped typing in text message speak.

What films do you make? Do you have to do a film for a graduation thing? Can we see your films online? Do you want to be a writer, director, or special effects artist?

I love film.

Originally Posted by hogs

Yea, i got that, too. then i told them I felt sad for them cause they missing out on some out of this world SEX(sex in dreams). #&^$&, i being have sex with blank blank blank!!!! HAHAHA

This is where they usually say: hmmm whats it call, again? (in the back of their mind, oh i want to learn too.)

sorry just joking

Hehhehheh, you guys seriously though, he does have a point. And no, I did not mean a pun.

Oh, and I'm nearly 40, artist, delicate and strange, weaver, computer geek, movie lover, tree hugger, nature lover, Discworld fanatic, guitar music freak, and I want to dye my hair black and bright blue because I'm old and I can.

I like this!

Ahem...

Hello. I'm pj, and I'm an oneironaught!
(bored monotones)(hello, pj...)

I'm a 46 year old father of two, married 19 years, engineer, entrepreneur, 'net freak, photog, artist and general eclectic.

Fits right in with me.

"So, um..." (somebody trying to make light conversation with me) "What's the hobby d'joure?"

"Lucid Dreaming."

"Oh. That's nice. Hey - did you hear about Chuck's mom suddenly getting pleurisy?"

Hi I'm NeAvO and I'm an alcoholic...

Anyway I'm 17 and I'm a draw stuff in my own time, student, part time chef, person that doesn't know what he wants. Also an onerionaut

Originally Posted by dreamship

Just tell them it is a scientific proven FACT and not any new age or religious hooha and feel sorry for them.

Also might work if you stopped smearing graphiti everywhere and stopped typing in text message speak.

What films do you make? Do you have to do a film for a graduation thing? Can we see your films online? Do you want to be a writer, director, or special effects artist?

I love film.



Hehhehheh, you guys seriously though, he does have a point. And no, I did not mean a pun.

Oh, and I'm nearly 40, artist, delicate and strange, weaver, computer geek, movie lover, tree hugger, nature lover, Discworld fanatic, guitar music freak, and I want to dye my hair black and bright blue because I'm old and I can.

haha isn't that cool, Cuz Im old and i can...ha cant wait to use that one

Originally Posted by SEBSTER

haha isn't that cool, Cuz Im old and i can...ha cant wait to use that one

Amazing how that works. Once you are a certain age people just don't argue.

Oh, and here's a morale booster for you I am 90% certain that Wes Craven who created those Nightmare on elmstreet movies lucid dreams and creates his films in dreams before he films. I think I remember him saying something on a talk show. I think it was David Letterman. This was YEARS ago so don't quote me on that. You'll have to write him and ask.

Good paper on Lucid Dreaming your friends might read: http://www.orthogonal.com.au/hobby/lucid/index.htm

http://wescraven.com or http://www.wescraven.com you might could do a short film on lucid dreaming and ask Craven for a few words. Or write a paper on dreams and film. The article link has some notes on art and film from dreams.

Rock On.

Originally Posted by dreamship

Amazing how that works. Once you are a certain age people just don't argue.

Oh, and here's a morale booster for you I am 90% certain that Wes Craven who created those Nightmare on elmstreet movies lucid dreams and creates his films in dreams before he films. I think I remember him saying something on a talk show. I think it was David Letterman. This was YEARS ago so don't quote me on that. You'll have to write him and ask.

Good paper on Lucid Dreaming your friends might read: http://www.orthogonal.com.au/hobby/lucid/index.htm

http://wescraven.com or http://www.wescraven.com you might could do a short film on lucid dreaming and ask Craven for a few words. Or write a paper on dreams and film. The article link has some notes on art and film from dreams.

Rock On.

That's really interesting. I've actually encountered Freddy Kruger (sp) in a lucid dream. It was creepy as hell. I was in an abandoned school hallway, and there was a really odd wind blowing through the hall and that typical Nightmare on Elm Street music started playing and I was like, omg, Freddy's coming. And when he showed up...I was so scared that I seduced him so he wouldn't kill me (lmao) and it totally worked. I even fixed his face so that he wasn't burned anymore. What an odd, bizarre, and cool lucid dream...

Well i read that expectation is the key to all lucid dreams....
if you expexted Freddy to appear PRESTO! he will. but thats aside from the topic

Originally Posted by Aquanina

I was in an abandoned school hallway, and there was a really odd wind blowing through the hall and that typical Nightmare on Elm Street music started playing and I was like, omg, Freddy's coming. And when he showed up...I was so scared that I seduced him so he wouldn't kill me (lmao) and it totally worked. I even fixed his face so that he wasn't burned anymore. What an odd, bizarre, and cool lucid dream...

Not meaning to get off topic here, but
Hahaha... that's hilarious!
So, did you make out with Freddy? I'm a guy but still, I'm curious, was he a good kisser?

I'm 16 years old, a skateboarder, a skapunk fanatic, an aspiring art and computer student, a future political activist, an aspiring travel junkie, and explorer, and an oneironaut!!

Oh, and here's a morale booster for you I am 90% certain that Wes Craven who created those Nightmare on elmstreet movies lucid dreams and creates his films in dreams before he films. I think I remember him saying something on a talk show. I think it was David Letterman. This was YEARS ago so don't quote me on that. You'll have to write him and ask.

Interesting you should mention his name. I'm alright friends with his nephew as of a few weeks ago.

Originally Posted by Casualtie

Interesting you should mention his name. I'm alright friends with his nephew as of a few weeks ago.

Then you ask him.

Originally Posted by dreamship

Then you ask him.

Ahaha no! I think that would be a really odd question to just ask someone. Plus, I probably won't see him for a good while. We only become friends because we had a physic project together.

I mentioned LD'ing in philosophy class once and almost got laughed out of the room.

I haven't yet come across somebody who thinks lucid dreaming is not possible. That might be because I am so selective about what people I talk to about it. If you want to convince somebody it is for real, ask them if it is possible to be dreaming and think think they are flying. After they of course say, "Yes," ask if it is possible to be dreaming and believe they are scuba diving. Ask a few more questions like that, and they should have a yes answer to all of them. Then say, "Is it possible to be dreaming and believe you are dreaming?" Your point will be proven, but they might still want to argue. If they say, "No," to the question, ask them why that is the one thing a person can't believe while dreaming.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

I haven't yet come across somebody who thinks lucid dreaming is not possible. That might be because I am so selective about what people I talk to about it. If you want to convince somebody it is for real, ask them if it is possible to be dreaming and think think they are flying. After they of course say, "Yes," ask if it is possible to be dreaming and believe they are scuba diving. Ask a few more questions like that, and they should have a yes answer to all of them. Then say, "Is it possible to be dreaming and believe you are dreaming?" Your point will be proven, but they might still want to argue. If they say, "No," to the question, ask them why that is the one thing a person can't believe while dreaming.

That's a nice way to slowly introduce them to the idea... I'll try that next time I mention it to someone. Should work better than my random rushing through the entire explanation of lucid dreaming, how it works techniques... lol.

WoW ive never explained it to someone like that...
i aways say "Dude u wanna hear something really trippy?":p
haha it never works..

Crazy, perhaps?

But I have a PhD, manage a team of engineers who build products and support services that bring in 10's of millions of dollars a year, have a wife and child.

I'm a 16 y/o science student, I wanna be a psychologist and I'm into spirituallity, therefore I'm really interested in exploring my own subconscious mind and being an oneironaut is just a part of that...

I'm pretty open about this kind of stuff and some people find it weird but I don't care. They probably have weirdnesses too that I don't know about...

And most people have had at least a LD in their lives. Probably if you ask them if they ever had a dream in which they realised they were dreaming they'll probably say yes, cause it happens to most people when they're kids.