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      Quote Originally Posted by halfer View Post
      mcwillis, I'm having problems. It's been a week and a half since I started reading this book and I had no success whatsoever. I had only one dream and even that one wasn't a WILD. I realized myself in a dream somehow. I'm not reading the book further at the moment because I'm afraid I will forget everything I have read by the time I will get a real WILD.
      I'm trying almost every night. Yes, night. WBTB is not suitable for me because I don't have an alarm that will stop ringing after a minute, which means I WILL have to move.
      Can you give me some advice?
      The lucid you had was a DILD. I don't understand why you have stopped reading the book. It is crucial to read and re-read the book as you will most likely make mistakes and hamper your progress. Can I ask why you can't do WBTB? What are you trying at night? If it is Indirect Techniques then don't do them at night, it is extremely unlikely that they will work and you will just be arresting any progress.

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      Quote Originally Posted by mcwillis View Post
      The lucid you had was a DILD. I don't understand why you have stopped reading the book. It is crucial to read and re-read the book as you will most likely make mistakes and hamper your progress. Can I ask why you can't do WBTB? What are you trying at night? If it is Indirect Techniques then don't do them at night, it is extremely unlikely that they will work and you will just be arresting any progress.
      I will move after waking up if I will use the alarm. I'm trying some direct techniques at night, no success. So it's better to use indirect techniques in an afternoon nap?

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      Quote Originally Posted by halfer View Post
      I will move after waking up if I will use the alarm. I'm trying some direct techniques at night, no success. So it's better to use indirect techniques in an afternoon nap?
      I would not try direct techniques unless you have alot of experience. Even then, never try them at night. The beginning of the night is a terrible time to try to have LD's for a variety of reasons.

      I would try waking up with your alarm after 6 hours (or 4.5 hours if you are really crunched for time) then setting the alarm for two hour later. Or whenever you NEED to get up for the day. Go back to sleep for the 2 hours with the strong intention of waking up without moving several times within those two hours. People usually are able to wake up naturally based on strong intentions.

      If that absolutely won't work after trying for a few weeks, find a way to have an alarm ring for about 15 seconds every 20 minutes or so AFTER you've slept for as close to 6 hours as possible. For example, have a 15 second alarm go off after 6 hours on your phone or computer placed in your bedroom. You can also use a stereo. I have used 15 second alarm MP3s that are spaced between hour and 20 minute dead noise intervals (on my ipod playlist).

      It is much better to wake up without an alarm because an alarm will almost certainly take you far enough out of sleep to require a good deal of indirect techniques. If you wake naturally you are much more likely to be able to seperate immediately or after little effort.

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      Quote Originally Posted by halfer View Post
      I will move after waking up if I will use the alarm. I'm trying some direct techniques at night, no success. So it's better to use indirect techniques in an afternoon nap?
      Using an alarm will ruin your chances by 50-75%. Natural awakening after WBTB is the ideal. Mr. Raduga says very emphatically don't practice Direct Techniques under any circumstances until you have plenty of experience of Indirect Techniques combined with WBTB. In his experience this will seriously arrest your progress. If you want maximum success in a short period of training time you really need to study the books.

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      Quote Originally Posted by mcwillis View Post
      Mr. Raduga says very emphatically don't practice Direct Techniques under any circumstances until you have plenty of experience of Indirect Techniques combined with WBTB. In his experience this will seriously arrest your progress.
      Mr. Raduga and all the other experts, particularly at night before bed. I wouldn't try it then even with plenty of experience.

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      Quote Originally Posted by LawPaw View Post
      Mr. Raduga and all the other experts, particularly at night before bed. I wouldn't try it then even with plenty of experience.
      Indeed, at night before bed is the worst time to WILD. I nearly did manage to once. It is very hard.

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