No Steps In WILD Technique?

**Brock** · 04-07-2011 12:54 AM

I've been trying to WILD for awhile now and I'm not experienceing the steps everyone is saying is supposed to happen. I'll repeat "I will have a lucid dream" over and over and focus on that but then I just wake up in the morning. I literally say the phrase over and over, then wake up 10 hours later. It makes it feel like I didn't even sleep. Like I just close my eyes then opened them, but I slept for a full night. So what I'm not getting is, isn't there supposed to be sleep paralysis or images and random thoughts appearing? Not just me saying the phrase and then waking up, no random thoughts or sleep paralysis inbetween.

**zebrah** · 04-07-2011 08:23 PM

Everyone can experience WILD differently.

Are you trying to WILD before bed? That almost never works. For me around 1 in 50 WILDs before bed work. And those are only when I'm sleep deprived.

**Brock** · 04-08-2011 12:15 AM

Yes I am trying to WILD before bed, I know it's not recommended but I can only WBTB 1 day a week because I have to get up early every other day, and practicing something 1 day a week isn't good training for anything. I do RC but I think DILD isn't really under my comlete control. I like WILD because it's fully in your control.

**Robot_Butler** · 04-08-2011 12:20 AM

What you are describing sounds more like a MILD, where you attempt to remember to recognize the next dream as a dream. If you can't find time to WILD during a WBTB, try it during an afternoon or late evening nap. You can launch directly into dreams if you time your naps right.

**Brock** · 04-08-2011 02:27 AM

Oh, I thought WILD was just where you stayed awake as your body fell asleep and I heard it helps to say "I will have a lucid dream" to keep you awake as your body falls asleep. I don't understand what MILD is though.

**dakotahnok** · 04-08-2011 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by Zebrah

Everyone can experience WILD differently.

Are you trying to WILD before bed? That almost never works. For me around 1 in 50 WILDs before bed work. And those are only when I'm sleep deprived.

Dont forget to mention that if you can complete a WILD before bed the vividness is normally pretty bad.

**zebrah** · 04-08-2011 03:36 AM

MILD is a mnemonically induced dream. This can involve mantras, visualization, meditation, and confidence.

FILD is a WILD variant where the oneironaut lays perfectly still aside from micromovents of the fingers.

The two WILDs I had before bed were short lived an unstable. Dakotahnok's statement is true some of the time. One of my pree-sleep WILDs was not vivid. The second was very vivid.

How come you cannot WBTB the other 6 nights? Just go to bed 30 minutes earlier each night so you have time for the attempt. My successful WILDs have never taken longer than half an hour.

**Brock** · 04-08-2011 01:07 PM

Well, school and sports from 7am-8pm. Then HW til 9, then dinner and getting ready for bed til 10. Then I wake up at 7 again the next morning. I just thought I couldn't do it is because you lose sleep doing WBTB right?

**Robot_Butler** · 04-08-2011 09:25 PM

You don't have to lose much sleep. It will improve your chances if you can even wake up for a few minutes in the middle of the night. You don't even have to get out of bed, although a full WBTB, where you get out of bed and stay awake for a few minutes is best.

**Brock** · 04-09-2011 12:21 AM

Few mins or like an hour as the Tutorials say?

**fiREiRon** · 04-09-2011 03:52 AM

for me, just staying awake for 5 minutes helps a lot. Heck, you don't even have to move (though it dooooooes help a bit).

just get up, walk around a bit, go back to sleep. That's the most low-maintenance way.

All you have to do is inject wakefulness into your REM sleep.