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      Just make your WBTB longer than you usually do. Increase the time before you go back to sleep
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      Quote Originally Posted by fOrceez View Post
      Just make your WBTB longer than you usually do. Increase the time before you go back to sleep
      Yup...forceez is right, if you're falling out too early, lengthen your Back to Bed time. If your WBTB happens to be something like 30 minutes, then I would suggest sleeping a little bit longer than you normally do for your WILD attempts.

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      Quote Originally Posted by fOrceez View Post
      Just make your WBTB longer than you usually do. Increase the time before you go back to sleep
      I haven't been doing WBTB. lol. i've been trying WILDing at around 8 pm without any prior sleep before. And before you scream at me and tell me its almost impossible to WILD without sleep before whenever i do do a WILD at around 8 i either fail and stay up or fall asleep and go RIGHT INTO A DREAM. so i don't think its my REM cycle that is screwing it up. The problem is i fall asleep too easily.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Duffles22 View Post
      I haven't been doing WBTB. lol. i've been trying WILDing at around 8 pm without any prior sleep before. And before you scream at me and tell me its almost impossible to WILD without sleep before whenever i do do a WILD at around 8 i either fail and stay up or fall asleep and go RIGHT INTO A DREAM. so i don't think its my REM cycle that is screwing it up. The problem is i fall asleep too easily.
      Do you start your WILD with the intention of being aware by the time you enter your dream?
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      Quote Originally Posted by DynoTAP View Post
      Do you start your WILD with the intention of being aware by the time you enter your dream?
      Apparently not, i just tried a WILD at around 8 and I'm just waking up from a normal dream! GAHHHH! i remember even starting it. I work at a library and the dream was basically me re shelving books for an hour! Lame.... Although funny thing i woke up and heard my roommate typing on his laptop and remember that it was the sound one of the people in my dream was making on the computer. 0.o

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      Quote Originally Posted by Duffles22 View Post
      I haven't been doing WBTB. lol. i've been trying WILDing at around 8 pm without any prior sleep before. And before you scream at me and tell me its almost impossible to WILD without sleep before whenever i do do a WILD at around 8 i either fail and stay up or fall asleep and go RIGHT INTO A DREAM. so i don't think its my REM cycle that is screwing it up. The problem is i fall asleep too easily.
      It is possible to WILD that way, but it can be much harder. It's very interesting that you go right into REM sleep when you first go to bed. That's pretty unusual. Normally NREM sleep is what you begin with and it dominates for the first half of the night. However, in the very first sleep stages before you totally black out, it is normal to experience some dreamlike images and sounds. Even though you're getting REM right away when you sleep, I'd recommend at least trying WBTB after sleeping 6 hours, or else trying WILD during a nap. If you're falling asleep within ten seconds of laying down, it's going to be an uphill battle to try to WILD in that state. It pretty much means you're too tired. So my advice is try to WILD when you're not quite so exhausted.

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