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      Dield Ways to Wake Up Without Waking Up.

      I am going to attempt DIELD but i want to wake up without waking myself up all the way out of rem. Anyone have any ideas of how to wake up without setting an alarm to take me out of rem?
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      Well it's kind of difficult, you can set an alarm to a somewhat soft volume if it has a time control, and you set the time to five seconds or so. But in my experience with that, I either fully wake up or don't at all, maybe I never found the optimal volume.. Really the only way I have DEILDs is by becoming conscious naturally after a dream ends, which usually only happens after my lucid dreams.
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      You can wake yourself up through autosuggestion. Pick a time you think you will be in REM and try and wake up then. It can help you with MILD as well.

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      you don't need to do anything but set the intent. you already wake up very briefly after every dream to check you are ok and everything, you just don't remember because you went back to sleep so quickly and never fully woke up. If you know you need to get up early to do something or you are anxious about something, then sometimes if it is strong enough your awareness will take over and you will wake yourself up. you need to set an intent to regain awareness and WILD when this happens.

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      If you wake up in REM during the night and attempt to DEILD you don't have to worry about being in REM or not for several reason.

      The first reason is that if you wake up in REM and stay up and either stay up for a few minutes (5-20 min) or just go back to sleep instantly, you are still going to start where you left of. And if you stay up for some time you are actually going to deprive your brain from the REM that it wants and are going to experience something called REM-rebound which means that the moment you fall asleep you will dream. This can be experienced to the extreme by for example sleep depriving yourself 24 hours and then attempt to go to sleep.

      However the second reason it doesn't matter is this. You don't need REM in order to have non-physical vivid dream experience!
      Atleast not in my experience. All you need is to focus on the dream (or something new) and you will be back, that's the whole point of WILD and DEILD.
      REM only makes it easier to find this focus of awareness.

      So you don't have to worry about REM being a necessity for dreaming, but use it as a tool to make the practise easier.

      But when you wake up just visualize (focus on the non-physical) and when you can feel it more vividly you are basicallly dreaming already, in order to have a full experience of it you need to move your awareness even more and use your non-physical senses, so really try to see, feel or hear etc. whatever you are visualizing.
      And when you can do that, just get up! And you are inducing a false awakening on your own.

      WILDing is only a process of moving your awareness, DILDing is the process of becoming aware of when it have been moved.

      I hope this makes sense to you, but if it don't just ask again.

      Sweet dreams!

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      Wearing blinders may help give you a reminder not to "wake up" too much, making a DEILD more likely.
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