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      Quote Originally Posted by VagalTone View Post
      Can you share with us how you practice? Do you first fall asleep or do you actively wait for images to come ?

      Are you sure you are not sleep deprived when you have those ultrafast WILDs ?

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      Not sleep deprived for sure, I sleep at least 7-8 hours a day. However I am pretty tired, I do martial arts and gym/run after work.

      I simply close my eyes and wait for images to come, but I do expect them, I can say I am pretty sure I will see them. In the beginning I usually see some geometrical forms, like circles, curves, dots, lanes. Those forms are always smooth, with no angles. Later I start seeing something in the middle, in the beginning it is hard to say what is it, because it is very blurred. What happens later I described in details in the OP. I do not think of anything particular, those images are random and I am still conscious and I always feel confused and i keep thinking where are they coming from. Later when I have better control I can choose a new theme/dream.
      Few things I noticed, It works better for me when it is dark and silent in my room. Sometimes when it is noisy I wear vacuum headphones and listen to some audio book. Images are not connected to book content.

      When I fall asleep and loose my conscious before I see how my dreams are forming, I usually see and feel something like a drop of water and vibrations around it, I do not see the actual drop in the middle, but I can see those vibrations and they are coming from the middle, the rest I do not remember. I know there is a blank space between my awake and dream in this case, I usually get lucid as soon as I enter my dream.
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      I believe lucid dreaming is all about how confident we are in what we do, your power of intent can do miracles. Doubts always make it harder to lucid dream.
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      Quote Originally Posted by flowofmysoul View Post
      Not sleep deprived for sure, I sleep at least 7-8 hours a day. However I am pretty tired, I do martial arts and gym/run after work.

      I simply close my eyes and wait for images to come, but I do expect them, I can say I am pretty sure I will see them. In the beginning I usually see some geometrical forms, like circles, curves, dots, lanes. Those forms are always smooth, with no angles. Later I start seeing something in the middle, in the beginning it is hard to say what is it, because it is very blurred. What happens later I described in details in the OP. I do not think of anything particular, those images are random and I am still conscious and I always feel confused and i keep thinking where are they coming from. Later when I have better control I can choose a new theme/dream.
      Few things I noticed, It works better for me when it is dark and silent in my room. Sometimes when it is noisy I wear vacuum headphones and listen to some audio book. Images are not connected to book content.

      When I fall asleep and loose my conscious before I see how my dreams are forming, I usually see and feel something like a drop of water and vibrations around it, I do not see the actual drop in the middle, but I can see those vibrations and they are coming from the middle, the rest I do not remember. I know there is a blank space between my awake and dream in this case, I usually get lucid as soon as I enter my dream.
      MP900399620.jpg

      I believe lucid dreaming is all about how confident we are in what we do, your power of intent can do miracles. Doubts always make it harder to lucid dream.
      Thank you for you elaborate and long reply. I would like to have your skill
      Check your memory, did any suprising event happpen ? does the present make sense ? visualize what you will do when lucid, and how. Reality check as reminder of your intention to lucid dream tonight. Sleep as good as you can; when going to sleep, relax and invite whatever comes with curiosity. Grab your dream journal immediately as you awake and write everything you can recall (if only when you wake up for good). Keep calm, positive and persistent, and don't forget to have fun along the way

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      Quote Originally Posted by VagalTone View Post
      Thank you for you elaborate and long reply. I would like to have your skill
      Make a better one. he said that intent is a very big part of it. Wishing for someone else's skill will only stop you from discovering your own. Use other's experience as a way to learn how to adapt your own technique to lucid till it becomes a second nature technique made 100% for you.

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      Quote Originally Posted by BrandonBoss View Post
      Make a better one. he said that intent is a very big part of it. Wishing for someone else's skill will only stop you from discovering your own. Use other's experience as a way to learn how to adapt your own technique to lucid till it becomes a second nature technique made 100% for you.
      For sure, that´s the way to go. Keeping an open mind, always
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      Check your memory, did any suprising event happpen ? does the present make sense ? visualize what you will do when lucid, and how. Reality check as reminder of your intention to lucid dream tonight. Sleep as good as you can; when going to sleep, relax and invite whatever comes with curiosity. Grab your dream journal immediately as you awake and write everything you can recall (if only when you wake up for good). Keep calm, positive and persistent, and don't forget to have fun along the way

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