Problem with WILD

[jmanjohn]

I know there are a lot of "problem with wild" threads, but I've never seen one directly address my problem. It's fairly simple, but when I'm trying to WILD, I'll get comfortable and start feeling sensations run over my body. This will happen pretty intensely sometimes, but at some point I feel like I have no oxygen in my body, and I have to take these very deep breaths. I very much notice the deep breaths because I'm breathing without thinking about it, then I just feel a complete lack of oxygen, and it completely takes me out of the WILD. I've tried not to think about the breaths, but it kicks me out of being able to WILD. I'm not sure what to do. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Sivason]

Two things. First understand that in WILD your body must fall asleep. You will possibly experience physiological changes in respiration, neurochemicals, and metabolism. It just depends on how long you pay attention after the first phase of sleep. It is weird and may be creepy at first. Knowing that helps. try not to think about the breathing thing and just begin pulling a little more air with each breath. Second, learn to breath. In martial arts, yoga, meditation, and track people learn how to get the most out of each breath. Try laying there and just breath kind of deep and get zoned out on the feeling and rhythm of your breathing. make sure each breath is full and not to rapid. Just relaxed and breathing kind of deep. If you get used to that feeling and rhythm, then try breathing just like that as you start your WILD. Do not pay so much attention to it that you keep sleep from happening. Your body should be able to keep up the breathing with almost no mental input from you. Good luck! Have fun.

[jmanjohn]

I have done a successful WILD before, so I do know a little about my body falling asleep and falling into a dream. But my breathing seems to just jump so dramatically it throws me off. Instead of a slow second long breath, which is what I would normally be doing, it turns into a 2 1/2 second rapid breath. I don't know if I need that or it's my body messing with me. I'm trying to ignore it and just relax, it's just difficult is all.

[gab]

I have noticed a few times during WILDing, that at some point, my body takes over my breathing. I no longer have control how fast or deep I breathe. Even my perspective changes. Suddenly I no longer hear myself breathe from the outside, with my ears. But I hear it from the inside. As if my ears were inside my body, internally. I also notice at this point, that the breathing has a pattern of that of a sleeping person. So I think, at that point my body has fallen asleep and that's what I'm witnessing. Also, just as I'm going into a LD, sometimes by breathing gets much faster, as if I was running. It is surprising, but as long as you know that your body is in control, you can let go and let it do it's thing. It does it every time we fall asleep, we just don't notice then, because we are not WILDing. I find it fascinating, how we are able and allowed to do that.