Thread: What Stops Your WILD Attempts

--StephL-- How long have you been doing this for? The attempts at least. It sounds like you where getting close. Have you by chance tried meditation?

It could be that either you are getting too excited while doing it, or haven't practiced and done it enough. Meditation could teach you to learn to relax better while totally consciousness and aware.

Originally Posted by pepsibluefan

--StephL-- How long have you been doing this for? The attempts at least. It sounds like you where getting close. Have you by chance tried meditation?

It could be that either you are getting too excited while doing it, or haven't practiced and done it enough. Meditation could teach you to learn to relax better while totally consciousness and aware.

Thank you!
Since four months - but not every night - maybe a third of the nights?
And I did indeed yesterday try out to meditate for some minutes in the day - just focus on my breath and on distancing myself from my thoughts - did me very good, I felt immensely refreshed and had quieted down my mind.
Will try to keep it up!

I would love to be able to WILD, because I am afraid, I won't keep up working for DILD, and being unsure of the results - latest when I start working full-time again, the next month or two.
Being assured of being able to do that, would really boost all sorts of other practices' motivation.
Wrong way round, I know..

Guys - I don't understand, what you are saying:

Originally Posted by pepsibluefan

It's not the fact that I can't do a WILD, its getting there that makes me feel uncomfortable. I really, really don't want to go through SP while experiencing dreadful hallucinations.

Then again I woke up in SP lots of times and never experienced such hallucinations. Maybe weird vibrations, and the rare feeling of electricity going through my body. I was attempting a lot of astral projections a lot back them so I experienced a lot of SP.

Maybe there is nothing to be afraid of. Maybe I could be one of the few that wouldn't hallucinate during SP. If I was going to WILD though and I felt an Astral Protection coming on, I would take that over WILDing into a lucid dream.

Pepsibluefan - did you only attempt to do what you call AP, or did you actually manage something of that sort?
Did you do a WILD yet?
Sounds you didn't try the latter from fear of the transition, while coming close to a transition for what you call AP, and it was completely harmless.

Isn't it basically the same as a WILD - so you maybe did it already - or at least were at the door and found out, that you don't suffer from any hallucinations from it. There's nothing other to fear with WILD.
It should be the exact same thing, except the interpretation of the experience differs according to personal belief-system.

Originally Posted by Looke

I think there is a lot of truth in what Maxis said about sleep paralysis being related to an out side disorder, i only ever experience it after a lucid dream then normally astral project from it. Never during WILD have i come across anything scary, abstract and unbelievable hallucinations have been apparent but not anything dark and scary.

Looke (:

And Looke - you didn't say "attempt" - you say you do astral project from waking up into SP from a lucid.
That in my view would be a DEILD - a sort of easier WILD, since you are already in a deeper state of mind, so to speak.
You seem to say, there is a difference between WILD and what you call AP.
And you don't get hallucinations from both. Or didn't you WILD yet in your differentiation of phenomena?
What would be the difference for you - except you do the AP from waking from an LD?
Do you differentiate, because what you call WILD comes from the fully waking state - or do you mean something else?


Would be three cases of no hallucinations with SP in this thread - same here - but I only know it from waking from an LD.
But I didn't WILD yet - and naturally from how I interpret stuff - no AP either.