Thread: **CrazyInSane's WILD tutorial!!**

Originally Posted by Spectrum

Thanks! I'd not considered that sleeping late would help me get back to sleep after waking up, so I guess I'll give that a go next time I'm up late. I'll check out the app too

The app is seriously perfect, it took a while to find it for me, but it's worth it to set it up. I'm not sure if it's free, though.. I think so, but my iTouch is jailbroken so I wouldn't know. I seriously recommend you to try it.

And yeah, as I said.. I finally realized I had to visualize to get this to work, got two LDs in a week or so, but then school came up again.. And the whole last week I've had to go to bed early (1am ) to get my sleep schedule back to normal instead of my usual 6am .. I usually couldn't fall back asleep because of all the sleep I was getting, so the whole last week has been a total failure.. But it'll get better when I get used to my new schedule, I guess.

One more thing I noticed this morning.. I had to actually get up later on, so I set two alarms.. One for the CANWILD, and then I told myself to get up if it failed.. If it worked, I had set a normal alarm playing music with the app from the post above, to wake me up and all. The first one failed.. Then the second, music one went off. I put the fade-in on it, though, so guess what happened? When the music started going off, I didn't move and stayed still.. And as the music played, I could feel the sleep paralysis starting (which is usually HARD for me to get into, even with this method.. I know if I continued, I would have gotten a LD, but I had to get up for school), apparently the music kept my thoughts away from wandering too much.. I'm going to start experimenting with this, perhaps some not-too-loud music as an alarm for CANWILD, which keeps playing for a couple minutes, would be a great way to put your mind in a state to enter SP. Gonna test it again tonight!

Originally Posted by Kaolc

The app is seriously perfect, it took a while to find it for me, but it's worth it to set it up. I'm not sure if it's free, though.. I think so, but my iTouch is jailbroken so I wouldn't know. I seriously recommend you to try it.

And yeah, as I said.. I finally realized I had to visualize to get this to work, got two LDs in a week or so, but then school came up again.. And the whole last week I've had to go to bed early (1am ) to get my sleep schedule back to normal instead of my usual 6am .. I usually couldn't fall back asleep because of all the sleep I was getting, so the whole last week has been a total failure.. But it'll get better when I get used to my new schedule, I guess.

One more thing I noticed this morning.. I had to actually get up later on, so I set two alarms.. One for the CANWILD, and then I told myself to get up if it failed.. If it worked, I had set a normal alarm playing music with the app from the post above, to wake me up and all. The first one failed.. Then the second, music one went off. I put the fade-in on it, though, so guess what happened? When the music started going off, I didn't move and stayed still.. And as the music played, I could feel the sleep paralysis starting (which is usually HARD for me to get into, even with this method.. I know if I continued, I would have gotten a LD, but I had to get up for school), apparently the music kept my thoughts away from wandering too much.. I'm going to start experimenting with this, perhaps some not-too-loud music as an alarm for CANWILD, which keeps playing for a couple minutes, would be a great way to put your mind in a state to enter SP. Gonna test it again tonight!

Well I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who opened with success, only to have a train-load of failures since. What my biggest problem this morning was, was that I seemed too awake and never entered SP, despite remaining still. Any ideas? I guess I'm just scared I'll fall asleep instead of be aware, any suggestions? Thanks.

Originally Posted by Sarge_Maximus2

Well I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who opened with success, only to have a train-load of failures since. What my biggest problem this morning was, was that I seemed too awake and never entered SP, despite remaining still. Any ideas? I guess I'm just scared I'll fall asleep instead of be aware, any suggestions? Thanks.

As I said before, visualization! It's the key to success for me..
Tried this night with the music method I explained in the previous post, it horribly failed.. The track startled me awake and made me instantly move, so that didn't work out.
Weekend's coming up now, finally I'll have some time to do real testing.

My biggest problem right now is honestly motivation.. It's hard to explain, though. I'm really motivated when I go to bed, but when I suddenly wake up at 6am in the morning, all I can really think of is "I wanna sleeeeep" - the last days I've tried this method, I couldn't focus enough to actually start visualizing, I just fell straight back asleep again.. Oh well. If anyone knows a solution to that problem, please do post.

Originally Posted by Kaolc

As I said before, visualization! It's the key to success for me..
Tried this night with the music method I explained in the previous post, it horribly failed.. The track startled me awake and made me instantly move, so that didn't work out.
Weekend's coming up now, finally I'll have some time to do real testing.

My biggest problem right now is honestly motivation.. It's hard to explain, though. I'm really motivated when I go to bed, but when I suddenly wake up at 6am in the morning, all I can really think of is "I wanna sleeeeep" - the last days I've tried this method, I couldn't focus enough to actually start visualizing, I just fell straight back asleep again.. Oh well. If anyone knows a solution to that problem, please do post.

Ah, visualization. How do you mean, exactly? imagining things? I can do that but it never turns into a dream, it's like my mind is too awake to dream. Tried thisa this morning, didn't wake me up so I must have been in the m iddle of REM, but when I did weake up, I tried for half an hour to get to SP with no luck.

Originally Posted by Sarge_Maximus2

Ah, visualization. How do you mean, exactly? imagining things? I can do that but it never turns into a dream, it's like my mind is too awake to dream. Tried thisa this morning, didn't wake me up so I must have been in the m iddle of REM, but when I did weake up, I tried for half an hour to get to SP with no luck.

Search for a guide on it here.
Basically, don't just visualize it, but also imagine the feeling of the memory/whatever you're trying to incubate.. You have to not only focus on sight, but also sounds, smells, feelings and so on.

Originally Posted by Kaolc

Search for a guide on it here.
Basically, don't just visualize it, but also imagine the feeling of the memory/whatever you're trying to incubate.. You have to not only focus on sight, but also sounds, smells, feelings and so on.

Ah I see, ok thanks. Any advise on reaching SP? Knowing what I've said my problem seems to be?

Originally Posted by Sarge_Maximus2

Ah I see, ok thanks. Any advise on reaching SP? Knowing what I've said my problem seems to be?

Get less sleep.. Or less hours before you wake up. Try at 4½, should work better for you. It's harder to hit the REM period, though.
What I do is simply to sleep less the night before it works wonders. Also, just follow what I said about imagining with all your senses and it should work. Also, right as you wake up, don't even think of SP or WILDing.. Just start visualizing instantly.

I reached SP on my previous DEILD attempt just by thinking/visualizing about the dream I had. But it was a natural wake up. But still if it wakes you up from a dream just think/visualize a bit on the thing you most remember of it.

Since weeks that I cant wake up with an alarm for a DEILD... Its time to use the laptop muahahah (last resource)