Thread: Can anyone help me ?

More information please? How how exactly have you been unsuccessful with FILD, have you been unable to fall asleep or have you fallen asleep unconsciously? In case of the latter.. FILD is an auxiliary method for WILD, a technique which requires a strong sense of self awareness in order to remain mentally awake while the body goes to sleep. Wiggling your fingers and stuff like that can help, but if the main ingredient, awareness, is missing, then the WILD is most likely to fail.

Hi, goldy,

FILD is not usually one of the techniques we suggest beginners use on the forums. It is associated with WILDing, and does not seem to be one of the most overall effective techniques out there. I would suggest reading up on MILD (either the LaBerge method, or Naiya's version) and using that before falling asleep. Here are the links to both:

http://www.dreamviews.com/attaining-...n-laberge.html

http://www.dreamviews.com/attaining-...technique.html

I practice LaBerge's method myself, and have had good results. Naiya's version is very popular on the forums, however. Try them both and use whichever works best .

I'd say first work on dream recall and reality checks before you jump in to FILDing, I know how you feel I'm kind of the same way, I want results now, but it's far more worth it to practice this things and in time you will definitely start seeing results.
Also, try to find your REM cycle, if youre not getting anything going you're probably waking up at the wrong time. Also, if you have to turn off your alarm yourself rather than it going off itself, then try to keep your eyes closed when doing it.

(either the LaBerge method, or Naiya's version)

@ThreeCat: I didn't know there was a difference between the two. I've been using Naiya's but I've read LaBerge's and it didn't seem any different. Is the only thing changed the prospective memory? Or is it something else?

Well Ive been trying naiyas combined wid WILD and from past sm days it has yield result i hav been able to attain a semi lucid state and am still work
ing hope it
t helps.As for dream recall i hav quite a good dream recall and remember most of my dreams and don't hav trouble in recalling what i dreamt .
Thanks to all those who helped.

Originally Posted by Sharpshoey

@ThreeCat: I didn't know there was a difference between the two. I've been using Naiya's but I've read LaBerge's and it didn't seem any different. Is the only thing changed the prospective memory? Or is it something else?

I think the prospective memory is different, but I also think Naiya's method downplays the importance of WBTB for many lucid dreamers. Because Naiya's is meant to be performed before bed at night, it more heavily relies on autosuggestion, and the hope that your intention carries you through 70 some minutes of NREM sleep, and whatever cycles of sleep you pass through after that. LaBerge's method emphasizes WBTB, but also emphasizes the single-pointedness of mind needed to carry most DILDers through even a minute or so of NREM. It is also designed to punch through NREM when it is thinnest. So I think it is mostly a matter of timing and execution. Also, since Naiya's method does not require simultaneously making an affirmation while also visualizing, some dreamers will be drawn to its simplicity.