Thread: Yuppie's DEILD guide - The easiest way to lucid dream.

Originally Posted by Trevor1763

As you said with the "individual" I do by far find this the easiest way to lucid dream. However... It doesn't work for me anymore. I try but it just doesn't work. My brain makes a new scenario and I'll be aware I'm dreaming but I just can't control it

When was the last time you had a lucid dream?
When was the last time you had a DEILD?
Why do you think you've suddenly seemingly lost the ability to DEILD?

Originally Posted by yuppie11975

That's some pretty solid progress.
I mean, c'mon, you were literally one step away from a DEILD.
Maybe tighten up on your intent to re-enter your dream a little more.

Thanks :3
I am definitely making progress but I still don't have a single lucid dream under my belt just yet. I just wanted to ask you something - When you DEILD do you wake up naturally or do you use an alarm clock (can you recommend a reliable software or app that turns itself off after a while?)

I woke up naturally.
It all depends on what you're trying to become adjusted to, though.
For example, if you have trouble getting to sleep, you'll want to wake up naturally, because being disturbed by an alarm will make it even more difficult.
But, on the other hand, if you have trouble staying concious as you fall asleep, then you may want to use an alarm, as it'll give you a heightened sense of awareness.
(So pick in accordance to what I've written above)

If you do opt to use an alarm, try something subtle and automated. You don't want an air-horn waking you up, and you don't want to be fumbling around trying to turn it off.

I tried DEILD for the first time last night and it worked! Beginner's luck? I don't care!
I practiced autosuggestion and visualization of me waking up from a dream, but staying still with my eyes closed. I usually autosuggest and visualize me waking up and taking notes in my dream journal, so last night was a different approach. On the first occasion, I woke up and opened my eyes, and I instantly remembered that I was supposed to keep my eyes closed. I was amazed how well my prospective memory worked (just a little too late). On the second occasion, I woke up and kept my eyes closed. The last sentence I heard in the previous dream was "Do you want a doughnut?" I visualized myself accepting the doughnut and examining it. Very quickly, I was back in a dream. I watched my hands and I knew right away I was dreaming. I'll keep practicing this, for sure!

Wow, great job! It's so nice to hear that you had a DEILD.
It could have been beginners luck, or it could have been those delectable doughnuts, hey?
Don't forget that DEILD can also be used to re-enter regular DILD's, etc.

Honestly, though. Congratulations.

I had my second DEILD this morning.
I didn't autosuggest about staying still (I'm back to my favorite flavor of MILD, which includes writing in my dream journal as soon as I wake up). But this morning, I realized I just woke up from a dream and I hadn't moved yet. In the dream, I was talking with a man I barely know, while he was doing some electronics soldering. I visualized myself in the same situation, imagining the conversation still going on. Within a few seconds, I was drawn back in a dream, fully lucid. I'm really amazed how quickly it happened.

I have been trying DEILD a few times since my previous post (January 17th), without success until this morning. Given the extreme quickness of the process, I suspect the time window that is open for DEILD after waking up must be very short: probably of the order of 5-10 seconds.

My next step will be to train myself to try DEILD at wake up, and if it fails after 30 seconds (i.e. way more than the time DEILD would kick in), switch to plan B: wake up a little more, write in my DJ and proceed with MILD.

Thanks so much for this tutorial! I'm definitely going to try this tonight, I always wake up in the middle of the night at the same exact time! Wish me luck!

Thank you for thanking me!

As obligated, best of luck;
Let me know how it all goes.

sometimes i wake up and immediately start to think of my dream but i seem to fall asleep quick, do i need to do anyhtin more mentally to stay on the edge longer? or should i just try to get more sleep the night before?

Just will yourself to stay awake a little more.
The main learning curve for this technique is finding the line between falling asleep and staying conscious.

Yuppie, I have a question. I get the whole process to have use the DEILD technique but I don't get how someone can fall asleep while being aware. Do you feel like you are awake and suddenly a dream appears?

When you manage to pull off a succesful DEILD, you will see that in some seconds you'll find yourself in the dream already, lucid probably. The transition is done really quickly.

Originally Posted by cesararduino

Yuppie, I have a question. I get the whole process to have use the DEILD technique but I don't get how someone can fall asleep while being aware. Do you feel like you are awake and suddenly a dream appears?

I wrote a really in-depth reply, but apparently it didn't go through.
Sorry for the late response.
Anyway, just try to read the guide again, and give it another shot.
If you have further problems, ask, and I'll give you a comprehensive answer.

I don't really feel like writing another essay for you after the first one I did was lost.
Sorry.

Originally Posted by Forg

When you manage to pull off a succesful DEILD, you will see that in some seconds you'll find yourself in the dream already, lucid probably. The transition is done really quickly.

This is also helpful.
Thanks, Forg.

(Although, sometimes I find it can take around 20 - 30 seconds until you find yourself lucid in a dream.)

Originally Posted by cesararduino

Yuppie, I have a question. I get the whole process to have use the DEILD technique but I don't get how someone can fall asleep while being aware. Do you feel like you are awake and suddenly a dream appears?

The point and the advantage of DEILD is that you do not fully wake up: your mind is still in the dreamy-state and you're just returning to it immediately. The best time to DEILD is when leaving a prior LD, in this case one can hardly be described as "waking up" at all if you return to the dream via DEILD. It's a bit tougher when waking from a non-lucid dream as you must first realize what is going on, allowing for a bit more wakefulness to accumulate before trying to drift right back to sleep, but still your body and mind are largely still in dreaming mode, and it is much much easier to return to it in this state than a full-on WILD from a full waking state.

What you do remains the same in either case: remain still, keep your eyes closed, keep your mind quiet and dreamy and contemplating the dream you just left and just let yourself drift off again.

Bump, just in case anyone is interested.

Originally Posted by yuppie11975

Bump, just in case anyone is interested.

I'll see your bump and raise you two..........

Subscribed.

Just gonna bump this thread because it's been dead for a while.

I still gets likes on the OP quite frequently, so I figure if anyone has any questions, they'll know that I'm available to answer.

I've had some luck with DEILDs in the past so I'm gonna give this a try tonight!

Sounds good, good luck!

I've tried to do this before, but i always worried that i moved and that it wouldn't work.. Is it okay if i move a little?

Yeah moving is absolutely fine. In fact, in opposition to your concerns, I find that it's much harder to correctly drift into your dreams with lucidity than it is to not fall asleep.

Good to see your'e still on top o the down under, Looking out at the snow I thought about you roasting down there