Thread: Ask/Tell Me About Arguing

Originally Posted by Jeff777

How can a man who weighed 400 pounds have the nerve to teach anyone about discipline.

you were supposed to lock this D:

you were supposed to lock this D:

No he wasn't

i requested a lock

just before the inevitable lock - the 400-pound 'happy Buddha' portrayal is mainly a touristic version. There are plenty of 'skinny Buddhas' and more so, there is no specific image of - and that's good (and honest) that way - of Buddha generally. Just do a quick google image search on 'Siddhartha' as opposed to 'happy buddha' and you will see what I mean. (obviously mainly directed @jeff)

Originally Posted by Jeff777

How can a man who weighed 400 pounds have the nerve to teach anyone about discipline.

The fat happy Buddha statue that you see in Chinese restaurants is not The Buddha. He was a mythical Taoist monk named "Budei" and hence the confusion. The Buddha was thin because he was a beggar. He even fasted until he almost died and there are cool statues of him all skin and bones, like a skeleton in lotus posture with long hair. A bit of history: originally there were no images or statues of the Buddha. It was the Greek ex-patriots living in India who started making images and statues of the Buddha. You see, the Hindu society would not except the Greeks because you have to be born a Hindu into the caste system, so the Greeks became Buddhists and continued their art. It was these Greeks who came back from India to Greece with a whole new set of philosophical ideas which gave rise to Greek philosophy including logic and rationality.

quick side note...

Originally Posted by Solarflare

And i never get mad in my arguments
:

i beg to differ~

Originally Posted by Erii

quick side note...



i beg to differ~

in the ones i win :3

You can never win me in an argument.

Originally Posted by saltyseedog

You can never win me in an argument.

That's because slavery is illegal.

When arguing, do you care more about winning, or more about the truth.

Put another way, ever tell your interlocutor an even better point for him to make?

Originally Posted by Solarflare

in the ones i win :3

ergo, you do get angry in arguments.
point A: how do you know if you win an argument (which supposedly restrains you from anger) before said argument is over?

Originally Posted by chacham

When arguing, do you care more about winning, or more about the truth.

Put another way, ever tell your interlocutor an even better point for him to make?

The truth is always more important. and it is what makes you win.

Originally Posted by stormcrow

To avoid debates descending into petty arguments try to avoid these

And Solarflare you really are not a master debater but its ok Im not either.

Heh heh heh... Master...debater.... Try saying Masterdebater really fast and see what comes out

In before jeff makes another pricelessly dumb comment

I think he has a point. When stating an opinion, you immediately put yourself in the position of being the ideal defender of that opinion. It's inevitable.

How would you feel about hearing an obese man preach about health? How would you feel about a smoker complaining about what a terrible problem smoking is for the environement?

It's extremely fundamental to question others if their actions are not in accordance with what comes out of their mouths.

Edit: What was the point of this thread again?

Originally Posted by XeL

I think he has a point. When stating an opinion, you immediately put yourself in the position of being the ideal defender of that opinion. It's inevitable.

How would you feel about hearing an obese man preach about health? How would you feel about a smoker complaining about what a terrible problem smoking is for the environement?

It's extremely fundamental to question others if their actions are not in accordance with what comes out of their mouths.

Edit: What was the point of this thread again?

It's important to question others, period. If their actions don't match their answers, you know not to believe their answers.

But Buddha was not stuck on the disciplinary polarity in the first place so not only was Jeff's assumption about his actual weight off but so is his assumption about Buddhism. Buddha promoted the middle way, a balance between discipline and enjoyment. His actions were consistent with this philosophy. Besides, if I were to choose a role-model, I'd pick the happy looking guy who's always chillin and laughing, not the sad looking guy nailed to a cross.

But you're totally right about reactionary opposites. I even felt the need to clarify your argument though we essentially agree.

YOU'RE ALL WRONG. (Boom. Argument shifted.)

Originally Posted by ThePreserver

YOU'RE ALL WRONG. (Boom. Argument shifted.)

cool story brah


on a side note i was so happy this thread died..... but now its back :/

Why did you create it in the first place?

iunno

Originally Posted by XeL

Why did you create it in the first place?

Hey, we've all made mistakes that come back and bite us on the ass, right?

I'll end your misery Solarflare.

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