Thread: Possibly the key to lucid dreaming?

Originally Posted by SilverBullet

I know from my own experience that it actually is possible to skip all stages and go right into REM. That is pretty much what a WILD is.

I don't think so. A WILD is done when you are near an REM cycle, performing it during a non-REM cycle won' turn it to REM sleep.

Does it really matter if it's in REM or not? I'm pretty sure there's also dreams in non-REM. I've done a WILD without any prior sleep before. More than once.

EDIT:
Also saying this technique is a placebo doesn't really make any sense. I guess you could say it is? Ok here is how a placebo works: You do something that doesn't really do anything but it makes you believe indirectly that the outcome will be successful, without really knowing that what you did has no actual direct effect.

This is how this technique works: You believe in yourself that you will have a lucid dream. So you have lucid dreams! I guess you could say your using the same part of the brain but that's what the technique IS. Plus your using it directly and knowingly. It's not false belief because the belief is what makes it work.

Also to answer your question about how we become lucid using this technique: Sometimes I'm lucid at the very start of the dream, sometimes in the middle. I don't know how exactly I become lucid I just DO. It just happens. I don't think about what makes sense and what doesn't I just suddenly think "hey, I'm in a dream!"

This is the same as law of attraction. ;D

This isn't a placebo you dumb fucks, go watch those videos.

Originally Posted by rynkrt3

This isn't a placebo you dumb fucks, go watch those videos.

I don't know why that made me laugh so hard XD. But I agree with you.

OMG I think it worked when I tried it, but I don't remember my dream. I felt lucid the entire time though, if only I had better dream recall...

Originally Posted by dacher2

OMG I think it worked when I tried it, but I don't remember my dream. I felt lucid the entire time though, if only I had better dream recall...

Well then, use this same technique to remember your dreams! You can use this for anything you want to do.

Originally Posted by bakbaba

So, this 'technique' is more or less a placebo...
To those people who have had success with this, I wanna ask, how did you get lucid?
Did you just enter the dream being lucid or did you realize that you were dreaming in the middle of a dream?

My question is: Are we really sure that all the techniques we now aren't themselves a placebo? We are not in a field like physics. I can be sure 100% that if I inject 100- 150mg/kg of potassium chloride in the bloodstream of any human being it will have a cardiac arrest and will die. This is physics. It's well known that not all techniques work for everyone so why is that? Because techniques fit a particular biological structure? Just because a technique "worked" or we had a positive outcome by using that technique it doesn't mean lucidity arised from the technique itself. That's the association we do. I think techniques work because we convince ourselves they work. You give power to the technique, not the opposite. Start doubting about the efficiency of the technique.... it won't work. You can try We need techniques because we are used to think we need external things to be something, to accomplish something, to be someone. We are daily bombed by ads on tv, in the streets, everywhere telling you to buy this or that, teeling you to be someone through something. " If you buy this you are someone".Buy this car and gain status.... status means power. True power comes from within. That's what I think.

This technique still hasn't worked for me. I'll keep trying.

Originally Posted by rynkrt3

This technique still hasn't worked for me. I'll keep trying.

If you don't feel as if you "know" it will work it's effectiveness isn't all that high. YOU CAN DO IT!

I thought I knew it would work for the first few days and it hasnt lol. I'll keep trying though.

Edit: Basically I do nothing and know I'll get lucid?

I'm not 100% sure. I do know that's what I do. I don't really do much to lucid dream, I just know I will.

If you watched the videos the guy explains that the more you learn to use this part of the brain the better it gets. It's like a muscle. Since most people don't use it at all when they get older it weakens, but it's always there. If you can use it you have to exercise it.

I don't think that will work for everybody, just my opinion. I've tried that before, before this thread came around. For about a month I stopped doing "Technique" I just let my mind do its thing, and I didn't get anything. I'm not sure if it's just me, probably is.

I'll watch the videos but this sounds lik a MILD. But maybe after I watch the videos I'll change my mind.

This isn't a MILD. You don't chant to yourself before bed...

I guess you could call this a BILD xD A Belief Induced Lucid Dream.

Originally Posted by rynkrt3

This isn't a MILD. You don't chant to yourself before bed...

Originally Posted by SilverBullet

I guess you could call this a BILD xD A Belief Induced Lucid Dream.

Lol you need no chanting. And it doesn't have to be before bed. Also most of MILD is based on belief.

I have watched the videos and I do think that it is different from MILD. Because MILD does involve pounding your head with intentions on how to lucid dream.

Originally Posted by dakotahnok

Lol you need no chanting. And it doesn't have to be before bed. Also most of MILD is based on belief.

I have watched the videos and I do think that it is different from MILD. Because MILD does involve pounding your head with intentions on how to lucid dream.

This technique is just pretty much explaining how naturals do it. I hope this helps a lot of people.

Originally Posted by SilverBullet

This technique is just pretty much explaining how naturals do it. I hope this helps a lot of people.

Those videos have a ton of info. Im going to be making a guide soon and some of this information will probably be in there.

Originally Posted by dakotahnok

Those videos have a ton of info. Im going to be making a guide soon and some of this information will probably be in there.

Nice! I hope it's better than mine!

didnt work the first two nights for me, im gonna try other techniques while i have all this time to sleep on vacation, and come back to this when school starts since its stress free. also, should it be your last thought, or can you drift off to sleep with your normal thoughts.

I can wake up whenever I want by repeating in my mind the time I wanna wake up at, just before drifting asleep.
Example :

4am!4am!4am!4am!4am!4am!4am!4am!4am!4am!4am!4am!4a m!

LOL.

Watch movie called "The Secret" and it will explain it in more details and it will explain why it doesn't work for you.

P.S. If you are sceptic don't even bother replying to me. "The Secret", "Law of Attraction", "Boosted brain performance" or however you call it changed my life. All the things I have now are because of it. I changed my life 100%. You woudn't believe what kind of "miracles" happened to me and now I found out that i can use it to have Lucid Dreams.

Originally Posted by Purebred

Watch movie called "The Secret" and it will explain it in more details and it will explain why it doesn't work for you.

P.S. If you are sceptic don't even bother replying to me. "The Secret", "Law of Attraction", "Boosted brain performance" or however you call it changed my life. All the things I have now are because of it. I changed my life 100%. You woudn't believe what kind of "miracles" happened to me and now I found out that i can use it to have Lucid Dreams.

The LOA came to my mind too when I read this thread, though I don't believe in it, I would like to know how it 'changed your life 100%' and how you use it in your day to day life (other than using it for lucid dreams, off-course).

Originally Posted by Mirror

My question is: Are we really sure that all the techniques we now aren't themselves a placebo?

WILDing isn't a placebo. The other techniques.... they could probably be... like for example- you RC in a dream because you believe that you will RC and your brain just makes it go that way, rather than RCing because it's a part of your routine.