Thread: SilverBullet's Newly Revised Key to Lucid Dreaming

Originally Posted by Windhover@

why is this not working for me?!! yet?!?!!

oh. I have to be positive. positive.. positive.... I really had LD after reading your old version of this, but now idk what the problem is, its not working (T.T)
I know I must not say that its nor working but why not,, I let all my stresses go and trust myself as a natural Lder
how the hell did I have LD instantly after reading this. I forgot.

Because usually your state of mind changes after you've had the LD. I can't exactly pinpoint what it is but I think it's just that after you get a good one you get too excited about lucid dreaming.

Wait, we're not supposed to feel excited about LDing?

Originally Posted by SilverBullet

Because usually your state of mind changes after you've had the LD. I can't exactly pinpoint what it is but I think it's just that after you get a good one you get too excited about lucid dreaming.

What did you do about that?

Originally Posted by SilverBullet

Because usually your state of mind changes after you've had the LD. I can't exactly pinpoint what it is but I think it's just that after you get a good one you get too excited about lucid dreaming.

I dont know how your statement works but I think you are right. so I should be calmed down all the time?? not too frustrated, not too excited?

Originally Posted by Windhover@

I dont know how your statement works but I think you are right. so I should be calmed down all the time?? not too frustrated, not too excited?

If you are excited, that is telling your subconscious that you are not a natural lucid dreamer: would a natural lucid dreamer be abnormally excited about a single dream? Probably not, because if you were natural, you know you'll have another one.

Originally Posted by Ctharlhie

Wait, we're not supposed to feel excited about LDing?

Well you can, but the side effect of being excited about lucid dreaming is thinking about it too much.

Also what establish said.

I am so frustrated. I want to learn to do this but I just don't understand how to come up with a new state of mind about lucid dreaming. I already know its easy, I know I can do it. I just don't get how your supposed to think your a natural when your not.

Finally! I think I get this whole concept now. Correct me if I am wrong silverbullet, but this technique is basically creating a schema that you can easily have lucid dreams. I think someone may have mentioned it before, I know one of the links did, but I can't reread the whole thread right now. It makes so much sense. If your subconscious thinks lucid dreaming is easy, than lucid dreaming will be easy. I won't get into schemata, you could just look it up. Hopefully, some more people can use this technique (myself included).

yes this might be helpful, the most important thing in lucid dreaming is to not be pressure. Lucid dreaming is a desire and a want. You have to really WANT it. When you want something, your brain automatically looks for anyway possible. Its designed to do that. We have the ability to chase whatever we want! remember: it wont happen as quickly as you want.... Lucid dreaming takes training. Some people are innate to becoming lucid. its all personal factors. Another important factor is recall. whats the point of being lucid if you cant remember it? Strongly suggest exercising your recall if you dont have a very good short term memory like myself... Write down your dreams, say them out loud or record them, then re-read them before you sleep. this tells your brain that remembering dreams are important. make it seem like your life depends on remembering the dream. It will work wonders. Trust me.

This technique is awesome! All this time, I've been obsessing over reality checks and dream journaling and whatnot, but there was an easier method all along! Mind you, I'll probably keep up with the RCs and dream journal anyways, but this looks AWESOME!

Love that part when you said your subconscious can't tell the difference between what you're imagining and what's actually real, that's so true.

Thanks!!

This reminds me of a study I heard about.

It was a study on the brain and the results of the study showed that in your brain the same neurons fire when you are thinking of something, watching something, or doing that same something.

For instance the same neurons fire when someone watches someone else eat ice cream as when that person eats ice cream themselves.

So as far as I believe, this technique has scientific merit.

Alright so I am also going to learn how to do this method, but I have a few questions. I dont get the part where you dont try at all and it should just work somehow. For instance, if I was writing a paper for school and didnt know what to write, I should just do nothing and stare into space? Its so confusing :/

Originally Posted by Darkranger85

This reminds me of a study I heard about.

It was a study on the brain and the results of the study showed that in your brain the same neurons fire when you are thinking of something, watching something, or doing that same something.

For instance the same neurons fire when someone watches someone else eat ice cream as when that person eats ice cream themselves.

So as far as I believe, this technique has scientific merit.

I have to say that the ice cream was a bad example. Because if you are watching someone eat ice cream it isn't going to activate the sense of taste. So how will the same neurons fire?

Or am I just not getting what your saying?

... Didn't you ever watch anything on The Food Network when you were hungry?

Getting closer to 300 lucids. Had about 5 today, they were AWESOME.

Originally Posted by dakotahnok

I have to say that the ice cream was a bad example. Because if you are watching someone eat ice cream it isn't going to activate the sense of taste. So how will the same neurons fire?

Or am I just not getting what your saying?

The neurons in your brain that fire when you eat ice cream are the same ones that fire if you are watching someone eat it. The sense of taste itself never comes into the picture.

Basically, as far as your brain is concerned, you are eating the ice cream.

And its not just an example, its how one of the tests was actually done lol.

.. Your nummy neurons are firing right now...

So I haven't had a lucid since, I do believe tho I set my intent back then...just need to be able to do that more effective and effortlessly!

Originally Posted by SilverBullet

It's easier when walking around with yours eyes crossed, so you're looking at everything but not a particular thing.

I was thinking about that. Do you actually do that while setting your intent or was that a metaphor?

Another question, is the intent to lucid dream every night different from the intent to, let's say remembering your dreams? Because sometimes I don't remember any dream for like 3 days in a row. But I get the feeling that this is something I do subconsciously because it can be a hassle to write down long dreams all the time. What I wanted to say is that I enjoy a break sometimes

And then, after a couple of days when I feel like I've rested, I know that I will remember my dreams the next morning...and I usually do.

No it's not a metaphor. It's a technique for shutting off your internal dialogue. Your brain will be paying attention more to the senses and shut off your thoughts.
I got pretty good at it to the point where I almost blacked out because I wasn't breathing when I did it too long haha.

Also, I guess you could say they're different although the technique for setting the intent is the same.

Originally Posted by SilverBullet

No it's not a metaphor. It's a technique for shutting off your internal dialogue. Your brain will be paying attention more to the senses and shut off your thoughts.
I got pretty good at it to the point where I almost blacked out because I wasn't breathing when I did it too long haha.

Also, I guess you could say they're different although the technique for setting the intent is the same.

You have just described what meditation is , it really helped me understanding what intent is about :I

I was wondering SilverBullet, how do you set your intent on lucid dreaming? Like once a day or right before going to bed or for a longer time or just a short period of time or not at all?

Originally Posted by Marsupilama

I was wondering SilverBullet, how do you set your intent on lucid dreaming? Like once a day or right before going to bed or for a longer time or just a short period of time or not at all?

I guess you could say it's always set, in the back of my mind. Even when I'm not thinking about lucid dreaming at all.

Originally Posted by SilverBullet

Because usually your state of mind changes after you've had the LD. I can't exactly pinpoint what it is but I think it's just that after you get a good one you get too excited about lucid dreaming.

Getting really excited before sleep was how I could guarantee a lucid in the early days. The slightest doubt that I would'nt have a lucid would kill that excitement. I don't think excitement is a block but in fact is an enormous asset.

Originally Posted by mcwillis

Getting really excited before sleep was how I could guarantee a lucid in the early days. The slightest doubt that I would'nt have a lucid would kill that excitement. I don't think excitement is a block but in fact is an enormous asset.

Well, maybe for some, but not for me.