I've got to the point where I can lie perfectly still in DEILD, but I need help.

**yuppie11975** · 09-17-2011 04:24 AM

So I've been trying deild for a while, it's very appealing to me, seeing it requires little effort, and should be easy once I get the hang of it.
So, I can now lay still, and just start thinking of my dream.
My problem is, I can't stay aware. If I concentrate to hard, then I'll wake up to much, or won't be able to get back to sleep. You know? This hasn't happend, I just know it will if I do that.
So I'll think of my dream and then I'll just end up back in it, but not aware, and realises when I wake back up?!
Help please :O

**yuppie11975** · 09-17-2011 09:15 AM

Or not, that's cool.

**Dark_Merlin** · 09-17-2011 09:36 AM

You only gave it 5 hours! It takes a while for some replies

I don't have much experience with DEILD, I did once pull off a DEILD chain but since then it's been difficult. In my experience it's very easy to do it while coming out of a lucid, as you can make yourself stay still. It doesn't take a lot of awareness - just enough to stay conscious as you go back to sleep.

With practice it makes a lot more sense, and you begin to understand just how it works. Personally you can feel a sort of 'click' as you transition back into the dream. Give it a go - you have nothing to lose! All you have to do is try and I guarantee you'll get it. I'm still experimenting with DEILD and WILD

**Matte87** · 09-17-2011 11:01 AM

It can take a while for you to understand how it works. It's nothing like walking through a door and bam! You're in a dream. The transition is tricky. Just keep on trying

**Arch** · 09-17-2011 11:03 AM

Yeah, just to add, transition is a skill in itself, you have to learn how to get into the right state, which can only come from practice.

**yuppie11975** · 09-17-2011 11:22 PM

Okay, thanks for the answers guys.
So last night, I was waking from my dreams frequently, I got about five where I was perfectly still.
So all of them failed except one.
This one, I started getting HH, freaking scary! There was something making extreme noise in my room, dragging across my carpet, and then thumping on to my bed next to me D:
I told myself it was all a dream, and I didn't bother me that much. I then started feeling mass vibrations. I tried to pay attention to them, but eventually they just stopped?
What's with that? :O

**Qwer** · 09-17-2011 11:59 PM

Try repeating 1 I am dreaming 2 I am dreaming 3 I am dreaming. And so on

**Milliecake** · 09-18-2011 03:35 PM

I'm struggling with nighttime transitions myself. Instead I've tried being lazy at the weekends and sleeping in very late and so far that's worked, possibly because the mind is more aware at that time than at say 4am. I'm using this as a way to understand how the transitions work so I can do it earlier in the night.

**yuppie11975** · 09-18-2011 11:12 PM

So what do I do millie?
Like, when I feel the hallucinations coming? Do I stop visualising and listen and watch them? Or keep visualising?
when I wake up, should I try to remember my dream, or just wait till something comes to me? Or visualise a random scene?
If I have no success after a few minutes, should I stop trying?
Please answer all of these questions xD
Thanks

**Milliecake** · 09-18-2011 11:32 PM

I can only answer from recent experience, but I usually focus on the dream I'm entering - in my case my room - and not on any HH. HH seem very mild to me mid morning time.

As for when to stop trying, make sure you're getting enough sleep should be a priority, but beyond that it depends how much time you want to spend. I've stayed awake a couple of hours on two attempts, then fallen asleep into lucids

**cytotoxicT** · 09-19-2011 12:46 AM

The key is to find something to focus on that can maintain your awareness without causing too much arousal that you stay awake.

Sometimes I do a mix between FILD and DEILD. In the brief waking period, I choose some tactile sensation to focus on. It can be from the previous dream (i.e. the feeling of my weight and movement while walking in a field) or a generic one like rubbing my hands together. It just has to be something simple that you can vividly imagine. That is all you focus on; if you get too caught up in HI or vibrations, you might not fall back asleep. Eventually a dream scene will form around me and I will actually be feeling the imagined sensations. That is the signal that I am in a dream.