Thread: Purebreds WBTB DEILD Tutorial / Lucid Dreams regularly

Originally Posted by Purebred

You can't be motivated without being confident. Open wikipedia. REM occurs A LOT more often at early mornings, because you are refreshed after non-REM sleep you had during the night. DEILD, after alarm clock woke you up, is VERY hard to perform, because it makes you too alert.
Are you trying to find flaws for enjoyment?

dude,don't get me wrong,but why the hell do i need to wake up for WBTB in the MORNING,i can wake up in the MORNING due to good recall,and preform DEILD right after that,you are telling me to wake up,preform WBTB,sleep,wake up again and do a DEILED,what do i get from that? please do not tell me that REM inn the morning is longer, i know, i am asking why the WBTB.

Originally Posted by areyoume

dude,don't get me wrong,but why the hell do i need to wake up for WBTB in the MORNING,i can wake up in the MORNING due to good recall,and preform DEILD right after that,you are telling me to wake up,preform WBTB,sleep,wake up again and do a DEILED,what do i get from that? please do not tell me that REM inn the morning is longer, i know, i am asking why the WBTB.

1. You can sleep with no worries for first 6 hours, because if you are not using WBTB, you woudn't know if you woke up in the middle of a night or in the early morning.
2. Your awareness increases, as you said.
3. Your motivation increases.
And the most important thing. It is a lot EASIER to focus your mind on DEILD after WBTB.

Don't forget to read the new updated SOBT (School of out of body experience) book where Michael describes new indirect techniques such as (Swimming technique, Hand rubbing and so on) and also provides other pracctioners descriptions of how their experiences felt like.

I can also mention that I made up my own indirect technique (Actions performed upon awakening to see if you are dreaming).

I don't know what I should call it, something cool hmm.. The Inner voice technique!

What I do is that I imagine myself screaming and when I feel and here myself screaming for just a little bit, I amplify that sensation and then when it reaches it's peak I am dreaming and can just get up!

Good guide Purebred and I would love to hear about your experience within the phase, have you for instance tried to proove OBEs? Because that's what I am currently trying to.

Originally Posted by Choi

Don't forget to read the new updated SOBT (School of out of body experience) book where Michael describes new indirect techniques such as (Swimming technique, Hand rubbing and so on) and also provides other pracctioners descriptions of how their experiences felt like.

I can also mention that I made up my own indirect technique (Actions performed upon awakening to see if you are dreaming).

I don't know what I should call it, something cool hmm.. The Inner voice technique!

What I do is that I imagine myself screaming and when I feel and here myself screaming for just a little bit, I amplify that sensation and then when it reaches it's peak I am dreaming and can just get up!

Good guide Purebred and I would love to hear about your experience within the phase, have you for instance tried to proove OBEs? Because that's what I am currently trying to.

Open up the new book of SOBT and ctrl+f LucidDreaming. you can find my experiences, which were posted in the Dream Jourbal of Dreamviews too.
Wow. Tell me more about that screaming technique of yours.

Originally Posted by Purebred

Open up the new book of SOBT and ctrl+f LucidDreaming. you can find my experiences, which were posted in the Dream Jourbal of Dreamviews too.
Wow. Tell me more about that screaming technique of yours.

It's basically just thinking something or imagine a sound, if it feels vivid just imagine another sound and then another sound and the volume of that sound will get amplified.
But I imagine myself saying different things first and when it feels like I am actually talking I start imagine other sounds and then I separate.

Originally Posted by Choi

It's basically just thinking something or imagine a sound, if it feels vivid just imagine another sound and then another sound and the volume of that sound will get amplified.
But I imagine myself saying different things first and when it feels like I am actually talking I start imagine other sounds and then I separate.

Wow. Amazing. I'm trying this technique of yours too from now on.

WHen lying still after a wakeup, I go into something that is a bit similiar to the free-floating state of mind..

In the Micheals book chapter, about how to perform WILD, you could find this long time ago. What I mean is, that you didn't modify the techniques, you just haven't read the whole book. Gotcha

The tricky part is to not just try to see the dream/the room/..., but actually feel it, and walk around in it, as if you are already there. Without moving your real body ofcourse.

There is a technique like this too.

Originally Posted by Purebred

Wow. Amazing. I'm trying this technique of yours too from now on.

In the Micheals book chapter, about how to perform WILD, you could find this long time ago. What I mean is, that you didn't modify the techniques, you just haven't read the whole book. Gotcha

Which book do you mean? The SOBT book?

Originally Posted by Spyguy

To begin with, I combined it with ADA. The rest of the modification is a bit hard to explain, but I'll try anyway WHen lying still after a wakeup, I go into something that is a bit similiar to the free-floating state of mind. I use the technique that I use to initially fall asleep (signature for the thread, it is a bit much to explain here), except for the fact that instead of fully throwing the conciousness away, I start visualizing the dream I had earlier, or the room I sleep in or something (which makes it a more simple form of DEILD than roulating a lot of techniques). The tricky part is to not just try to see the dream/the room/..., but actually feel it, and walk around in it, as if you are already there. Without moving your real body ofcourse.
The last part is more of a mindset and stuff, but I'm probably going to make a thread on that soon enough, because it would take me a seriously long time to post it here. I'll send you the link when I've done it, because it might take a while.

Seems interesting.. I will try that some time. Thx

Originally Posted by Purebred

Wow. Amazing. I'm trying this technique of yours too from now on.



In the Micheals book chapter, about how to perform WILD, you could find this long time ago. What I mean is, that you didn't modify the techniques, you just haven't read the whole book. Gotcha


There is a technique like this too.

I did read it. Entirely. Three times. He did mention a tranquil mind, but free-floating feels different from just tranquil to me (perhaps it's just my wrong interpretation of the word though). And I didn't say it wasn't a technique, just that it's tricky What I meant by the modificaton is that I stopped roulating techniques and started using just the visualization (I think he called the sensory-motor visualization in the book), because I find it really hard to roulate techniques and stuff without thinking, and that takes me out of the right state of mind. I also meant adding the ADA and my way of falling asleep quikly etc.