Finding a way to set up a FILD/DEILD without fail

**siuol** · 03-22-2012 02:32 AM

One of my favorite methods of lucid induction is the FILD method, however lately I have been having problems waking up naturally. Now I am trying to find a way to do FILD without having to rely on waking up in the middle of the night spontaneously, and have an idea.

What I want to do is to wake up from an alarm, and then going to bed with the intent on waking up 5 minutes later, with the intent to FILD upon re-awakening.

This sounds like it should work, and if anyone has done this or wants to try it tell me your results.

Also, I do things like this on occasion when I turn my alarm off instead of snooze and want that last 5 minutes, but I feel like I can improve. Sometimes I don't wake back up, sometimes I do, and sometimes I take too long. If anyone has their own way of waking themselves back up after they fall asleep, please tell me. It can be a position you lay down in, or whatever. Right now what I am doing is slightly embarrassing and I'm not even sure how well it works.

Anyway, though I have used this to wake up before my buss pulls up, now I will try to use it to get lucid. Good luck to anyone who tries to use this.

**gab** · 03-24-2012 11:27 PM

I'm sorry, I don't use an alarm and I have never tried FILD. But it sounds interesting.

I wake myself up at night by drinking water every time I wake up. That works well for me. But if you need to stay motionless for FILD, this may not work. Good luck

**DinoSawr** · 03-25-2012 12:32 AM

Check out CrazyInsane's CANWILD method here. What I do is wake up for a WBTB and then turn on an mp3 that is 30 minutes of silence followed by a beeping sound. I just use my PSP and keep it near my bedside so I can quickly turn on the mp3 and go back to sleep. 30 minutes later the beep goes off and, ideally, I should wake up without moving.

Maybe this is the kind of thing you are looking for?

**Arch** · 03-25-2012 05:16 PM

Like Dino said if you are struggling to wake up naturally then either wake up unnaturally or try a different technique.
Why not learn to become lucid in a dream and then teach yourself to DEILD when you wake up from that lucid? Just a thought.

**sanctum** · 03-26-2012 01:09 AM

As DinoSawr said, the CANWILD technique is VERY useful. I have found great success with it. A big issue with that is finding some sort of app or device that will play a short sound and turn off. However, if you have a phone with calendar alerts or reminders, you can set a short (2-3 second) sound to go off at the right time. With a little time, you'll find the precise time in your sleep schedule and volume needed to just barely wake you up. If you get it right, you can basically induce a DEILD rather than relying on possibly waking up after a dream.

**siuol** · 03-26-2012 02:42 AM

I'm reading it now. I do remember this method, and for a while I was trying it. After searching for an app on my ipod that had an auto-turn off alarm, I began experimenting. I spent a few days trying to find a setting where it wouldn't go on for too long or loud, or too soft and short. While I tried to find that combination my ipod broke =( . Anyway it says I can do this for PC, does anyone know if I will have to keep it open all night?

Edit: right now I am going to do a wbtb at 530, during which I will turn on my laptop and set the alarm.