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    Thread: How to Reality Check the Wrong Way

    1. 06-27-2014 08:28 PM #1
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      How to Reality Check the Wrong Way

      Do it fast, without any reflection, as much as you can

      A: Count your fingers and get back to your business
      B: Read a text twice and get back to your business
      ...
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      Check your memory, did any suprising event happpen ? does the present make sense ? visualize what you will do when lucid, and how. Reality check as reminder of your intention to lucid dream tonight. Sleep as good as you can; when going to sleep, relax and invite whatever comes with curiosity. Grab your dream journal immediately as you awake and write everything you can recall (if only when you wake up for good). Keep calm, positive and persistent, and don't forget to have fun along the way
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      Optional wrong way: jump off third floor to see if it hurts (dream will not hurt as much)
      Another wrong way: try to push thumb through eye.
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      ^^ Still, Vagaltone does make a good point... an RC done without sincerity or reflection will never achieve its proper function, regardless of how often it is repeated.

      Or am I being too serious here?
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      Yes, Sageous, that's my point! I meant to be serious too RC are meant to be a conjuction of awareness, memory and reflection and they should be something like a short meditation. If we just do it mindlessly like "am i dreaming? No i have 5 fingers" that's a very superficial and annoying thing to do.

      Not a new recommendation of course!

      If we really cultivate the art of RCing we will enjoy RCs much more and probably derive more and better LDs as a result. Following Tholey's RCs steps, for instance, it's one way to go. He teaches what should be done, how, why and when - not just how much!

      References for an article on Tholey's technique:
      Efficacy of Lucid Dream Induction For Lucid and Non-Lucid Dreamers | Antonio Zadra - Academia.edu

      PS: i forgot the purpose of the thread was not how to RC but how not to
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      Check your memory, did any suprising event happpen ? does the present make sense ? visualize what you will do when lucid, and how. Reality check as reminder of your intention to lucid dream tonight. Sleep as good as you can; when going to sleep, relax and invite whatever comes with curiosity. Grab your dream journal immediately as you awake and write everything you can recall (if only when you wake up for good). Keep calm, positive and persistent, and don't forget to have fun along the way
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    5. 07-02-2014 06:23 PM #5
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      Link for the classic Tholey's paper
      Library Genesis: Scientfic Articles

      Shame on you, VagalTone, for showing copyright respect -once again !
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      Check your memory, did any suprising event happpen ? does the present make sense ? visualize what you will do when lucid, and how. Reality check as reminder of your intention to lucid dream tonight. Sleep as good as you can; when going to sleep, relax and invite whatever comes with curiosity. Grab your dream journal immediately as you awake and write everything you can recall (if only when you wake up for good). Keep calm, positive and persistent, and don't forget to have fun along the way
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      How not to RC:

      - Talking to people about lucid dreaming without actually realizing you're dreaming. I remember teaching people how to reality check in my dreams sigh xD
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      You have to face lucid dreams as cooking:
      Stick it in the microwave and hope for the best?
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      Drink some acid. If it kills you, then you are not dreaming.

      I think mainly why we should RC properly is because wondering if we are actually dreaming serves a function to add for us a schema that we might be dreaming at any given moment, contrary to the common Joe's "I'm always in waking life, duhh". When this schema is established, we would actually consider the option of dreaming next time we are in doubt instead of finding other rational explanations. After all, the schema that we are always in waking life eliminates the possibly of us being in a dream as an explanation to bizzare events( well that and semantic memory being impaired, it's like a double punch).

      So RCs are not just for coinciding one in a dream to become lucid, but also establishing that crucial mindset that we might be in a dream at any time, allowing us to add dreaming to our sack of rational explanations to bizzare occurances.
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      "People tell dreamers to reality check and realize this is the real world and not one of fantasies, but little do they know that for us Lucid Dreamers, it all starts when the RC fails"
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