Thread: How to VILD effectively

I've already attempted one kind of VILD before, but this one sure it supperior. The other one just said "Imagine a room, and keep doing that for 30 minutes, until you eventually have a lucid-dream!". I've done VILD before, uintentionally, and that was just awesome. Sorta like a WILD, but still a tad different. I think.

I'll try what the technique is so far tonight, and then report back tomorrow

I will reask Thatperson's second question. Has anyone had success trying it before sleep or are you supposed to do WBTB. I usually try to WILD in bed when its bedtime just to relax and fall asleep, not really expecting one (which may be why i havn't had a successful one. I have recently started to visualize things while doing this and I will try this and report back.

Originally Posted by Thatperson

1. do we open our eyes when we are done?
2. can this be done at normal sleeptime and if so is it better to do it at other times?

thanks for a great post anyway

1. uh, during the method? No. Treat it as if you were going to sleep because... well.. thats what you pretty much are doing. This is how I often get to sleep =P

2. The great thing -I think- about this technique is that it can be done anywhere. All you have to do is tune out your normal senses then visualize!

Of course, thats only when you're really good at visualization. Once you are good enough, you can skip over the whole process altogeather and just plop everything together. You can do it in seconds.

But to answer your question, you should probably be in bed when starting out. Or a similarly restful place.

Originally Posted by musicman

Wow. although I've never tried to VILD before, this makes it seem like the most enjoyable way to induce lucid dreams. I think it will be easier to visualize if you imagine yourself barefoot with wind and breathable clothes. I want to think of it like Matrix style: standing in a white room with the environment flooding in around me. This should be in the Tutorials section

Hehe... enjoyable the first time you do it.... But you can only stand in a white room matrix style so many times before it gets boring. Thats why I often "squirrel" my environment. This simply means taking a small part and then creating a whole new environment from that. I'll have a section about it one I finish =O

I thank you all for your positive comments. I always love them <3

I ask that you guys try this tonight then tell me how it went. Theres a couple things i'm just realizing i probably should have said that i'll be adding such as waiting for the dream to stabilize before you go crazy. Don't do stuff like try to fly right off the bat. Stick to real life stuff until the dream takes over and you no longer have to generate everything yourself.

This is shaping up to be on of the most comprehensive VILD guides I have ever seen - keep up the great work. I'm watching this thread with great excitement . I think I might start trying to VILD, so if I have results anytime soon, i'll be sure to post here.

I tried what we have so far, making the scenery visually. Then I started to think weird thoughts. I even cought myself thinking completely different thoughts, then asked myself "What the hell is that I just visualized?". I never got to touching, as I fell asleep. The technique is great for that by the way.

I'll be expecting the next step

i tried it last ngiht without sucess, i was a bit uncompfortable but that will probably change tonight,

anyway so your saying, when you get really good you can just LD wherever you are at anytime? By the way, is there meant to be a point where we go from visualising the scene to actually seeing it because I did this once 2 years back with a book but got over-exited and lost it.

Looking forward to reading future posts

You mean go from a visualization to a world where you don't need to create everything yourself? Yeah, thats what the end result of this tech is supposed to be. But you can usually only go this deep when its time to go to sleep. For example, you'd probably still have to visualize some stuff as you went along if you tried this sitting in your computer chair.

I'll try to finish this up today but I can't make any promises.

sounds pretty cool

anyway what i meant to say was once i was visualising a book and then I actually see it with my eyes and was reading the text rather than jsut with my minds eye

Originally Posted by Marvo

Sorta like a WILD, but still a tad different. I think.

Yea.. VILD is really similar to WILD. I think VILD just involves more conscious attention because you are intentionally creating a specific dreamscape.

WILD is more trying to enter into the visualizations that your mind is creating: I think this method allows for more vivid imagery because less consciousness is being used?

I think if the VILD is becoming really vivid then you can relax and try and enter the dream consciouslly (WILD). But VILD has the added bonus that if you fail to enter the dream consciously you are much more likely to encounter this dreamscape during sleep.

almost got something there, just woke up from nap and when it started i visualised a mosquito (heh its a start) but didnt become lucid or remember my dream

When I first entre my dream scenary it is a plain room. It has 4 walls and a door on the left wall. The off white, and the door and trim around the floor is brown. My friend is in the room and he tell me, "I think you're dreaming! Do a reality check now!"

Alright, Pretty much finished now! =) Its almost twice as long as it was before. Its all in the first post so go check there for the update. Thanks to Squall for that! <3

Originally Posted by maytodecember

When I first entre my dream scenary it is a plain room. It has 4 walls and a door on the left wall. The off white, and the door and trim around the floor is brown. My friend is in the room and he tell me, "I think you're dreaming! Do a reality check now!"

Originally Posted by Thatperson

almost got something there, just woke up from nap and when it started i visualised a mosquito (heh its a start) but didnt become lucid or remember my dream

Sounds promising! =)

Originally Posted by TalkingHead

Yea.. VILD is really similar to WILD. I think VILD just involves more conscious attention because you are intentionally creating a specific dreamscape.

I'm not sure if you understand the terms. WILD is an umbrella term. Its a classification for all the techniques that go from waking to lucid. A VILD is a WILD.

that looks AWESOME! I tried to visualize a scene similar to yours, but I was simply canoing on the lake. Should I try to not move until the visualization becomes more stable?

Originally Posted by musicman

that looks AWESOME! I tried to visualize a scene similar to yours, but I was simply canoing on the lake. Should I try to not move until the visualization becomes more stable?

Its not so much not moving that should be avoided but rather changing things dramatically. A nice even stroke with the paddle might be even more effective then simply standing still because you get to -hopefully- feel the pull of the paddle as you drag it through the water.

Don't fight the visualization. What you see first is where you are likely strongest (probably because of strong memories.) And it will be more stable that way.

Wow good post. I'm definitely going to try this out tonight. I"ll tell you how it goes tomorrow.