Quote Originally Posted by Shift View Post
I mean noobs are excited to be "in SP" which means they've made it to REM stages, but that's not the case if all they're experiencing is hypnagogia... the tip of the iceberg when it comes to falling asleep.
But, as discussed its quite possible to be in SP with out being in REM sleep.
SP is indeed part of Hypnagogia.

Don't see why noobs shouldn't get excited. Its a big step in the right direction.