Thread: How can a natural avoid becoming lucid every night?

Originally Posted by arne saknussemm

And BTW, I support atheists in many areas, such as the one addressed in this link. If anything needs to be taken down a notch, it's Christmas. Often I've thought that the world would be a much better place if Jesus and Muhammad had never been born.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/12/05...ef=mpstoryview

This thread isn't really about you now, is it?

Originally Posted by arne saknussemm

Really? My blog is "stupid?" A lot of people have read it, and Mad Hatter is the first person who has ever said so. Well, you can't please everyone.

As to what the things in your dreams really are -- you only have to have lucid dreams to find that out. When you do that, it's easy to learn.

No one cares about your blog. If you wish to bother someone you can PM me about it. I've already asked told you to stop spamming this person's post.

might seem a little far fetched... but hypnosis would work if it came from somebody experienced. For all the skeptics out there, hypnosis is more like forced placebo. You have to believe it will work, but then it does. I have heard that the hypnotist will tell you something like " When you fall asleep at night, you will see a button. Press that button and you will enter a lucid dream. ". Possibly something like that, but press the button NOT to have a lucid dream...? Also, you could hypnotize her just not to lucid dream at all.

Originally Posted by arne saknussemm

And BTW, I support atheists in many areas, such as the one addressed in this link. If anything needs to be taken down a notch, it's Christmas. Often I've thought that the world would be a much better place if Jesus and Muhammad had never been born.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/12/05...ef=mpstoryview

Arne, I am not very religious myself. However, stop spamming the thread. The fact that you would even consider posting that here means that you probably live in some crap apartment somewhere, and your only real interaction with people is on this website. Please do us all a favor and leave.

Originally Posted by arne saknussemm

And BTW, I support atheists in many areas, such as the one addressed in this link. If anything needs to be taken down a notch, it's Christmas. Often I've thought that the world would be a much better place if Jesus and Muhammad had never been born.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/12/05...ef=mpstoryview

Originally Posted by oniman7

Arne, I am not very religious myself. However, stop spamming the thread. The fact that you would even consider posting that here means that you probably live in some crap apartment somewhere, and your only real interaction with people is on this website. Please do us all a favor and leave.

Yeah, what has religion and Christmas got to do with this thread?
Stick to the rules like everyone else.

What's wrong with your blog...go back to it Prima Donna.

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Don't post things like "No one cares about your blog. If you wish to bother someone you can PM me about it. I've already asked told you to stop spamming this person's post.". It's only encouragement for the troll. Just skip his post and read the important ones.

I'm not gonna lie about this:

I find it strangely amusing to see DV members and trolls fight.
MOAR drama.

I'm home from work now, once my friend gets online i'm going to try and convince her to come talk to you guys/gals herself

I'm sure you guys will be able to help her.

That would be very nice, Moon.

Dose she already have an account here?

Originally Posted by oniman7

might seem a little far fetched... but hypnosis would work if it came from somebody experienced. For all the skeptics out there, hypnosis is more like forced placebo. You have to believe it will work, but then it does. I have heard that the hypnotist will tell you something like " When you fall asleep at night, you will see a button. Press that button and you will enter a lucid dream. ". Possibly something like that, but press the button NOT to have a lucid dream...? Also, you could hypnotize her just not to lucid dream at all.

I've never been hypnotized, because I was admittedly very skeptical when I was ignorant about it's nature.

Now that I've come to understand the kinda of "forced placebo" nature of it, I've started to think that many it could be useful.

I second the hypnosis suggestion

Originally Posted by Snowy Egypt

That would be very nice, Moon.

Dose she already have an account here?

Not 100% sure, if she doesn't ill just have her use my account, and tell her to let you know that its her and not me

Oops, sorry the spamming is partly my fault too for mentioning the FSM username. I just got all excited coz I love the FSM concept and was quite amused to see someone had used the name and logo. For a minute I actually thought it might even be the FSM Himself come to lend His helpful noodly appendage

*whacks self*

Once she realises she`s in a dream, find a bed in the dream and go to sleep?

Originally Posted by JustSoSick

Once she realises she`s in a dream, find a bed in the dream and go to sleep?

True, that could work... but if she becomes lucid (nearly) every time she sleeps, it may not be any different going to sleep within a dream.

Threads like these make Dizko a sad panda....

Can't she just close her eyes and daydream about random stuff to lose lucidity? Stuff in lucids needs our attention to exist.

Trying to make her LDs stop is BS, the only solution is to learn about LDing, which she could easily do here on this site. If it really is a problem for her, then I look forward to seeing her around the site. But if she's too lazy to bother, that's her problem, and she'll get no sympathy from me.

Waking up all the time is the first hurdle a newb LDer must overcome. It's a little odd she hasn't been able to figure that one out yet. It may just be she doesn't know jack shit about dream control, which a little time browsing this site could easily fix.

Originally Posted by JustSoSick

Once she realises she`s in a dream, find a bed in the dream and go to sleep?

Originally Posted by Mad Stratter

True, that could work... but if she becomes lucid (nearly) every time she sleeps, it may not be any different going to sleep within a dream.

From what she tells me its not. She is still in a lucid dream, she is still aware she is dreaming.

Originally Posted by The Cusp

Trying to make her LDs stop is BS, the only solution is to learn about LDing, which she could easily do here on this site. If it really is a problem for her, then I look forward to seeing her around the site. But if she's too lazy to bother, that's her problem, and she'll get no sympathy from me.

Waking up all the time is the first hurdle a newb LDer must overcome. It's a little odd she hasn't been able to figure that one out yet. It may just be she doesn't know jack shit about dream control, which a little time browsing this site could easily fix.

She doesn't want them to stop, she wants them to not happen every single night of the week.

She doesn't wake up all the time. She has plenty dream control. She just becomes lucid every time she dreams.

Originally Posted by The Cusp

Trying to make her LDs stop is BS, the only solution is to learn about LDing, which she could easily do here on this site. If it really is a problem for her, then I look forward to seeing her around the site. But if she's too lazy to bother, that's her problem, and she'll get no sympathy from me.

Waking up all the time is the first hurdle a newb LDer must overcome. It's a little odd she hasn't been able to figure that one out yet. It may just be she doesn't know jack shit about dream control, which a little time browsing this site could easily fix.

Why the hostility?

I can understand that it's hard to imagine a scenario in which you don't want to have lucid dreams, seeing as we are all here to increase our lucid dreams.

From what I understand, she's not looking for sympathy; she's looking for help.

Try to relate: have you ever suffered from insomnia? Not just trouble falling asleep now and then, but truly exhausting, anguishing insomnia... you come to a forum looking for help on falling asleep. How much help would it be if someone said "Trying to stop staying awake at night is BS. The only solution to your insomnia is learning about sleep... it may just be that you don't know jackshit about falling asleep, which a little time here could fix."

This site focuses on people who have trouble with LDs learning to have them more, so a reverse of that problem does require special attention.

[QUOTE=Ghost94;959616]Maybe your friend should go with the flow

Well said Mad Stratter

Originally Posted by oniman7

might seem a little far fetched... but hypnosis would work if it came from somebody experienced. For all the skeptics out there, hypnosis is more like forced placebo. You have to believe it will work, but then it does. I have heard that the hypnotist will tell you something like " When you fall asleep at night, you will see a button. Press that button and you will enter a lucid dream. ". Possibly something like that, but press the button NOT to have a lucid dream...? Also, you could hypnotize her just not to lucid dream at all.

Originally Posted by Mad Stratter

I've never been hypnotized, because I was admittedly very skeptical when I was ignorant about it's nature.

Now that I've come to understand the kinda of "forced placebo" nature of it, I've started to think that many it could be useful.

I second the hypnosis suggestion

Thanks for the support, and I hope that people ( especially The Moon ) will read this and take it to heart. It is one of the hardest to achieve, but also the most effective if done right. It works on a subconscious level, and it is hard to do that otherwise.

Originally Posted by oniman7

Thanks for the support, and I hope that people ( especially The Moon ) will read this and take it to heart. It is one of the hardest to achieve, but also the most effective if done right. It works on a subconscious level, and it is hard to do that otherwise.

id honestly like to believe it works, but i've never had it done to me before so who knows heh...