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    1. 12-21-2009 02:34 PM #1
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      DEILD failing

      Hi, I have an idea of what this could be but I am not entirely sure and want some of your input.

      Every time I have a lucid dream or just wake up in the night and keep completely still and without my eyes opening, I attempt DEILD. The thing is, it just doesn't work, nothing happens at all. The night that I heard about DEILDs from slash I had one but after that all I do is fail them. I do make sure that I do a reality check just in case but I am always awake.

      I would guess that I am not in rem when it fails but it seems unlikely due to the amount of times I have done it.

      Do any of you guys have different answers as to why it never works for me?
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    2. 12-21-2009 02:52 PM #2
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      You could be too focused on it. If you wake up and are instantly excited about lucid dreaming when you try to DEILD, it could wake your brain up just enough to where it hinders the process, even if you don't move.

      Just keep working at it, and I'm sure you'll see some success soon!
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    3. 12-21-2009 03:14 PM #3
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      Ok, thanks. I definitely am excited about it and my heart is inside of my head. It is reducing the longer I go on for though. It's even more annoying of late though that it is failing because I've realised I have been dreaming every day for a couple of days but they end really soon and I can't get back to them.
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    4. 12-24-2009 02:16 PM #4
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      I attempted twice last night and nothing happened, I wasn't excited at all.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Dying Dignity View Post
      I attempted twice last night and nothing happened, I wasn't excited at all.
      This happens to me too... I've been DEILDing for the past few months and only three or four times they've actually succeeded.

      I do find my heart beating slightly faster after I wake from a dream and lie still, but it just continues on and I don't get anywhere. I just 'lay there' but nothing happens! Urgh!
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      some event, some pinprick even, disturbs the edges of what we have taken as reality.
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    6. 12-31-2009 07:52 PM #6
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      Hi, the key for DEILD is that you wake up at just the right time during a REM cycle to allow yourself to re-enter a LD. I honestly don't think that anyone can "fail" at this technique unless they simply fall back into a non-lucid dream. However, you cannot really fail if you are just simply unable to re-enter a dream after waking up, because this requires that you wake up at such a specific time in your sleep cycle. It's really a matter of luck. At least, that's how I see it.
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      I agree with Nina here--if indeed you woke from a dream, it's highly likely that you woke up at the natural end of your REM period. It's not that you've "failed," it's that you ran out of REM!

      My trick to DEILDing is recognizing my dream shifts, periods between dream plots where I am in a brief state of sleep paralysis.
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    8. 12-31-2009 08:23 PM #8
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      Yeah, that was my first guess but like I said, it just seemed unlikely due to the amount of times that I have tried to DEILD and not entered a dream.

      I'll start trying again now that I know what the problem could be, thank you for the replies
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