Thread: Password Shared Dreaming Experiment Part 2

Sorry Link, I have just not been having any dreams that seem like they could be related. I am interested to see what the results have been. Thanks for hosting again.

It's no problem! Thanks to everyone that participated. Sorry that I haven't posted anything lately, the blackout here and the sporadic on and off with electricity is making things more difficult for me.

I basically spent 2 days without internet, and I hope to gather results so I can immediately post everything before internet cuts off again. Hopefully maintenance can get their asses here and fix this electricity issue.

But for now, to save the drama..

PASSWORD:

BROKEN CARBONS



DERIVED FROM (below)

Deuterium Isotope Effect

A tool used in mechanistic investigations to establish whether a C-H bond is broken in the rate-limiting step of a reaction.


You had the right concepts in your dreams Sivason, and I was hoping you would catch me complaining about Organic Chemistry a lot in the Rant and Rave thread, since I was frustrated pretty much the whole 30 days on it lol.

You're a real trooper, you really are, amazing stuff indeed, even though we didn't get anywhere near the password.

Woodstock, same to you, thanks for contributing, and Cloud, I guess you were just busy with things, and that's just fine, but thanks anyway for considering.

And People who were Control Variables...thank you as well!

But even though this experiment turned out to be of no substance with the password, AT least we have framework to work on. But for now, I think it's best for me to take a break, especially with my 4th exam for Organic Chemistry in a few weeks coming up, and final exams overall.


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All the pictures of when I took the password, the starting date, time, everything, and then the page number, and all the stuff for Excel that was on Google Docs under "[email protected]" will be there eventually, and I'll do it ASAP (electricity thing is really messing up my Time Management Schedule, and that comes first).

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Remember, the framework that was developed based on other people's insight from the Shared Dreaming Debate thread is what matters. Progress will be shown eventually.

No matter what happens, the important is that this framework was through the collaboration of other people forming into a community, both skeptics and believers to find SOMETHING that can guide us in the right direction.

I hope to have more of this in the future, but until then, I'll just be around in DV like normal, and Happy Dreaming everyone!

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Also Sivason, it seems those password attempts were actually related to what I was learning at the time (except the fatty acids one)

EDIT: Fatty Acids relates to Degrees of Saturation, it doesn't prove any synchronicity, but at least part of your dreams were related to waking life residue.

I actually did an Organic Chemistry Lab using Silica GEL with TLC paper for Rf values.

Coincidence? Most likely.

But either way, though they didn't match the exact password, they did match some experiments in lab and lecture. Of course, that doesn't prove shared dreaming or makes it a probably phenomenon though.

Okay, here's all the pictures and Excel Stuff:

Take the information any way you like, and thanks again everyone!

Until next time, continue to do your best in dreaming overall.

http://ompldr.org/vZzRxMg



>>>>Shared Dreaming Part 2 Results Link HERE<<<<

Originally Posted by Linkzelda

Woodstock, same to you, thanks for contributing

I'm sorry I couldn't help more. I'm remembering my dreams again, but I forgot about this until now. None were related to your password so we didn't miss the chance to prove that shared dreaming is real. If you do this again I'll probably let someone else do it instead of me unless you use more random words. I don't know anything about chemistry so I'd miss the password if I saw it or I'd forget what it was.

Maybe you could use two completely unrelated words like "melon waterfall" or something like that? If I saw a melon waterfall in my dream I'm sure I'd remember that (I might even get lucid from it) and it couldn't just be a coincidence.

Thank you for these two oppotunities to explore what can be done in dreams.

Follow your heart and simplify things as you are inspired.

Originally Posted by Woodstock

I'm sorry I couldn't help more. I'm remembering my dreams again, but I forgot about this until now. None were related to your password so we didn't miss the chance to prove that shared dreaming is real. If you do this again I'll probably let someone else do it instead of me unless you use more random words. I don't know anything about chemistry so I'd miss the password if I saw it or I'd forget what it was.

Maybe you could use two completely unrelated words like "melon waterfall" or something like that? If I saw a melon waterfall in my dream I'm sure I'd remember that (I might even get lucid from it) and it couldn't just be a coincidence.

I agree Woodstock.

I think the Matrix worked with the stream-of-info that makes up Me and got the concept Broken] to me in that dream where I acidently pulled of my right big toe-nail.

Then I tapped where the nail had been and it didn't hurt because it was hardening up quick.

Then, as I woke I got the hipnapop (hipnapopic image) of rounded-square chuncks in an invisible, undulating large "intestine"?, moving towards me, through space.

Then awake, I spontainiously said "salt" in my head.

Salt is not carbon

But I recon the matrix didn't totally fail. The matrix managed a metaphore for "brocken" (hehehe).

I love, love, love these games.

Thank you again Linkzelda for hosting. Love your new avater too.

@Woodstock

Trying to make up unrelated words and just "happening" to dream of watermelons (in your case), and seeing if it matches up with what I was thinking for a password and stamping it as a shared dream does not cut it at all.

That's actually making it worse. We're trying to communicate, not just think something random that isn't determined (like the number of pages and the number generator). Ideally, we're supposed to meet and "share" a dream, and ultimately, me telling the participants the password

Sorry, if I did something unrelated, and had no proof that I was following something to make the password, and you just happened to make an association based on Watermelons, and stating we had a shared dreaming (even though I know you're not), it would make the whole experiment go to waste.

It's the same thing Gills stated when we first tried this experiment, and he was right.

Just because someone finds an association, doesn't mean there's a shared dream involved. Honestly, by your words, it feels like you're trying to make stuff up with this unrelated password creation and skew the whole purpose of the experiment.

It just won't work out like that, at least from what I'm seeing. But that's just me. Honestly, the password itself is key to see if the phenomena of shared dreaming is more probable, but what's even more important is that we "share dreams."

I'm not being hard on you, it's just that someone else is probably going to tell you this anyway. I most likely won't attempt doing "unrelated" words because it has to be derived from something, at least for the framework of this experiment.

You can try one if you want, but I prefer this one for now. I just can't make too many changes to this, so it may be boring for a few attempts, but it's something to work with for consistency. You'll just have to be patient, and at least for now, we can head over to the IOSDP user forum until there's been quite some time passed before attempting the experiment again.

If we started doing this, then doing that, then doing this, then doing that, it messes up everything, EVERYTHING.

Unless we can see some kind of significant improvement with this framework, you'll have to get someone else to set up the experiment, or try to create one for your own honestly. Not that I'm trying to be mean or anything, it's just a basic concept of science.

Well Link

I think everyone is trying tooooo hard.

Back in 2008 I got invited to join in some dream games. They were up to Dream remote viewing Lab 30 when I joined. 65 if you include Nick Newports 35 before Eyeoneblack's.

Nick Newport was asked by enthusiastic practitioners of Lucid Dreaming to put objects in a box so that saltcuber's could focus on the box as they attempted LDing.

When we woke we posted our dreams and had a guess at what was in the box.

Then Eye took over.

It was fun. Dreamers were not trying to "share dream" so it was a bit shocking when some dream entries showed evidence of shared dreaming.

I think related terms are important. If we were trying to prove the powers of a supposed 'psychic master' then maybe we would make it extra difficult. However, if the two terms are outlandish and unrelated it may be beyond anyone's ability.

An interesting note, is that in this round I actually did meet with a DC of Link in a lucid dream. It may or may not have been a projection of Link's actual dreaming mind (he says he was studying the topics I mentioned), or just an auto-suggestion dream on my part. I am encouraged that I had a vivid dream that involved me meeting up with Link on purpose and discussing the exchange of a password. It does not matter if it was real shared dreaming. Link did not recall the dream from his side. That does not change that it could have been a connection, because his own recall would be required, regardless of a connection being made.

In this dream, I met Link on a college campus, but the communication was happening through a telepathic exchange, NOT in literal words. We went together to a chemistry lab, and he attempted to 'show me' what the password related to.

In that dream he showed me a diagnostic test, used to determine the presence of certain chemicals (lead) in a solution. Link's actual term was based on a diagnostic test. That in itself is pretty cool. However, if this was a shared dream the use of telepathic communication kept us from a literal exchange of words. By keeping the two terms connected we make the exchange easier.

Maybe in a few more months, I'll set up another 30 day run if you're up for it.

Originally Posted by Linkzelda

Maybe in a few more months, I'll set up another 30 day run if you're up for it.

Sure, it is fun.