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      Rope clibing technique

      when i first knew about astral projection right after then i started to have false awakenings which by research lead me to lucid dreaming. the first technique that poped up for astral projection was monroe rope technique. i was very excited to try it. later that day when i lie on the bed and closed by eyes and just started imagining that i am climbing the rope. i did'nt struggle as i have very vivid imagination, i cant tell for how loang i pulled the rope because i doz off to sleep but i was still climbing the rope and now i can see my hands i was jerked back to consciousness and found my self in SP. i just kind of floating in the direction of climbing and now i was sitting on the bed. i can see my head on the pillow i was very excited which caused me to loose concentration and i opened my eyes in my body.

      That brief success was the only success i achieved. i am not able to replicate the experience with the rope technique again. i just dont know how i got it worked for the first time . so i wanted to ask have any of you guys had success with this technique?
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      I have never tried the rope climbing.

      Do you know how you got to the point when you summoned the rope?

      If not, I suggest you try WILD (sageous). It get's you to the point, when you can use any exit technique - either enter the images, or summon the rope, or just simply stand up and walk away or roll out of your body.

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      There seems to be a rule when entering some lucid states, or out of body realities.
      You can try a new technique, and as long as you have prepared correctly, and have a serious/sensible approach, you will succeed.
      Fly around your bedroom. Visit the moon. However if you get too excited, you will be evicted, and not let back in.
      It is as if you got in by the back door, but now the door has been noticed to be open, and has been closed.
      Using the same technique again with any degree of determination no longer seems to work. You have been blocked.
      I know this only from personal experience, as I have done some amazing things, but a second, or third attempt seems to be blocked by some barrier.
      I am working on a multiple approach, where several techniques are used in a set sequence.
      Just using a single method may no longer work for many members, and their interest in this forum soon wanes.
      If a multiple approach method already exists, I would love to know about it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by TiredPhil View Post
      ...However if you get too excited, you will be evicted, and not let back in.

      It is as if you got in by the back door, but now the door has been noticed to be open, and has been closed.

      Using the same technique again with any degree of determination no longer seems to work. You have been blocked.
      Oh, boy, I sure wish you have not posted this.

      There is no one to evict you. If you get excited, you lose focus. That's the only reason why you find yourself back in your bed.

      There is no back or front door (good or bad entry). There is no cheating in getting there. Either way you get there is fine.

      If your technique stopped working, that's because it may have become a rutine. It's no longer a novelty and you don't hold your concentration on what you doing. or you may have read about being blocked and now you believe it. It had become your mental block, not a block set up by someone.

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      Quote Originally Posted by gab View Post
      Oh, boy, I sure wish you have not posted this.

      There is no one to evict you. If you get excited, you lose focus. That's the only reason why you find yourself back in your bed.

      There is no back or front door (good or bad entry). There is no cheating in getting there. Either way you get there is fine.

      If your technique stopped working, that's because it may have become a rutine. It's no longer a novelty and you don't hold your concentration on what you doing. or you may have read about being blocked and now you believe it. It had become your mental block, not a block set up by someone.
      Thank you for telling me that my opinion is wrong, and yours is right.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TiredPhil View Post
      Thank you for telling me that my opinion is wrong, and yours is right.
      I didn't say you were wrong. I said I wish you didn't say that. Posts like these are what give people mental blocks.

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      You are right again

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      If a person has a mental block, they can find it almost impossible to overcome, without some form of advice.
      Telling them they have a 'mental block' will produce the effect.
      If however you present the mental block as an exterior force, the situation can be challenged.
      You are no longer fighting yourself. You have a exterior force to overcome.
      Your challenge is to win, or beat the other person,or force acting against you.
      My reply was to give an opposing force to compete against, not to create a mental block.
      But you messed it all up, didn't you

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      I find my diet can play a significant role in wether I'm successful with the same technique multiple times. If on a night I want to try an obe technique after eating a heavy meal I become physically sluggish and more importantly mentally lazy. Subconsciously I think I shouldn't have to be as agressive as I was the first Time I was successful. Even though my desire to Wild is still there. When I eat a light vegetarian meal or reframe from food 7 to 8hrs before sleep I am mentally sharper and much more likely to perform my techniques with out prejudice. For me their is a certain maintenance required to be successful with the same technique multiple times because the sheer excitement of your first time stays with your first time. From there you have a knowing but that knowing can be dulled by outside forces like the foods you eat. Namaste.
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      Do a search for reishi ( Not the coffee )
      Ganoderma lucidium.
      Brilliant results so far.

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      Quote Originally Posted by gab View Post
      I didn't say you were wrong. I said I wish you didn't say that. Posts like these are what give people mental blocks.
      A bit of an opology to gab.
      After reading your remark, the impression I got was of someone jumping on my back for trying to help another member.
      Since then, I have read some of your other posts, and threads.
      It appears you also try to help others, as often as you can.
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      Guys tried again tonight same technique, i was in my bedroom where my brothers and my sister were playing, cannot get them out so started right there. i lie on my bed and with light focus i started climbing the rope but this time i did'nt worked hard on the visual aspect but instead i just felt that i am climbing the rope and i am being pulled upwards. every now and then due to noise i lost focus but kept at until i hypnagogics started and after few minutes i was in limbo, but then my sister jumped on me

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      I use a technique just like this in some of my WILDs to attempt transitiion. It solidifies the awareness of a non-physical body, there fore causing you to loose track of your actual body. So you transition from waking body to dream body this way. It does not matter if your goal is AP, to view your own surroundings, or to enter a dreamstate. Thhe element that i feel you are touching on, but missing is how to get to the first stages of sleep while aware. Even in a trance state sitting in lotus position and deeply experiencing waking fantasies with vivid daydream images, you are in a way touching on sleep. You change your brainwaves with WILD.

      Good luck, it is a useful way to transition. You just need to get your basic WILD skills going so you can do it more effectively.
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      Quote Originally Posted by TiredPhil View Post
      My reply was to give an opposing force to compete against, not to create a mental block.
      Now I'm confused. You're saying you didn't completely mean what you said about doors being closed, but you said it so it would be an external obstacle to overcome?

      I don't understand how this kind of benevolent half-deception could help people. Nobody can tell what's real or who or what they're interacting with. Ninety-nine percent of the stuff that's written on paranormal or religious stuff is like this, invented with the same kind of motive, and as a consequence its almost impossible to separate the truth from the smoke and mirrors.

      I don't mean this personally, and maybe I misunderstand you in any case.

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      Quote Originally Posted by shadowofwind View Post
      Now I'm confused. You're saying you didn't completely mean what you said about doors being closed, but you said it so it would be an external obstacle to overcome?

      I don't understand how this kind of benevolent half-deception could help people. Nobody can tell what's real or who or what they're interacting with. Ninety-nine percent of the stuff that's written on paranormal or religious stuff is like this, invented with the same kind of motive, and as a consequence its almost impossible to separate the truth from the smoke and mirrors.

      I don't mean this personally, and maybe I misunderstand you in any case.
      The problem is that 99% of all the information out there is all made up. Even so called "FACTS"
      Most of the information I got from school is now revised, or even changed completly.
      People on here often jump in with silly replies like " God is guiding you " or " The devil made me do it "
      In their experience, have they ever met the devil, or god - No, but they still preach their imaginations.

      As for my reply.
      I gave the person a challenge that was easier to overcome than the original problem
      It was a psychological approach rather than advice.
      Apologies if the meaning was lost in my poor grammar.

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