Thread: Contacting Extra-Dimensional Interstellar Beings.

Nop. Not those atleast.

Any other forms?

The only contact I've ever had with anything was during psychonautic exploration rather than oneironautic exploration, and in that case the being(s?) were both me and not me at the same time. Sometimes it felt as though I were a surrogate for their conceptual thought forms and sometimes I felt like I was communicating with something else, sometimes myself. The communication was insignificant, however, in that there was no message being transmitted. It was simply contact, with quite a bit of nonsensical babble and ramblings. My opinion? The result of a highly altered state. The feelings I had, the things I saw, felt, knew, and thought, they were all a result of severely disrupted or even completely blocked signals in the brain that caused my perception of consciousness itself to warp out of a useful form for this "reality" we live in and to mistake what is and isn't, and take those mistakes and project them into my perception.

I may have been a little misleading with my post claiming to have met extra-dimensional entities in lucid dreams, which I have not..
But,

Originally Posted by snoop

The only contact I've ever had with anything was during psychonautic exploration rather than oneironautic exploration, and in that case the being(s?) were both me and not me at the same time. Sometimes it felt as though I were a surrogate for their conceptual thought forms and sometimes I felt like I was communicating with something else, sometimes myself.

Yess... To put it quite bluntly. In early psychonautic explorations I experienced being a second personality in my body who had memories and insight of life on another planet. Basically a schism opened up in my mind which allowed me to be both myself and simultaneously be another thing altogether and I can recall with utmost detail the facial features, bodily features of an insectoid entity. The emotional aspect and the mental knowing of who I was and which body I was posessing is the hardest to describe but also the most significant aspect of what makes it real to me. There is a sense of me that just 'knows' and another sense which doubts. But with the consequence of sounding like a nutcase the knowing part is much stronger in me. It is this experience that opens up my mind for possibilities like channeling entities. Although there are lots of fakers out there. I have kindly refused an internal offer of an entity to 'channel' through me. Partly because it looked like a malicious entity in the same way that a spider might look malicious.. But then again, so did the insectoid 'organism' which I described earlier, there was a definite sense of primally active bloodlust present. Which offers insight into a maybe not-so-kind broader reality view of the universe.

K, so both encounters did not signify intelligence as in human intelligence. Which certainly seems to be present in Pleiadan explanations. I just haven't encountered those. The only reason I replied the way I did in the first place is because this 'insectoid' encounter echoed in a lucid dream which involved being personified as an alien who travels to the earth "as a tourist" and splitting minds with different humans in order to learn more about the species. The dream offers no more than a foretelling motive for what happened and doesn't constitute as actual contact I should think. So the lucid dream method of contacting extra-dimensional beings is still up for scrutiny I believe.. End of telegram.

It seems as though there are some commonalities in our psychonautic journeys.
I too have made contact with iridescent "insectoid" like entities,which communicate using telepathy and outward visual projection, rather than using abstract language.
Similarly,during these experiences, I feel as though I am part of everything and everything is part of me...a cosmic oneness of sorts, although there still remains a slight duality of the observing consciousness even though the ego is severely reduced.

This is a common occourance during my dimethyltryptamine and high-dose psilocybin shamanic exploration.
I believe that all these different "entities" and "beings" exist on disparate astral planes beyond our 3 dimensional reality of the 5 senses.

If we are able to penetrate different layers of existence while lucid dreaming using our astral body ( for example 4th 5th,6th dimensions etc.) then surely there is a way to invoke these entities?

One possible experiment I have envisioned is to become lucid in a dream, take the same substance,ie smoke DMT or take psilocybin mushrooms, and then see if I'm catapulted to the same place.

Any of you tried this?

"Once upon a time I dreamt I was a butterfly, fluttering hither and thither. I was conscious only of my happiness as a butterfly. Soon I awaked, and there I was, veritably myself again. Now I do not know whether I am a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or whether I am a butterfly, dreaming I am a man."- Lao Tzu ॐ

Originally Posted by Kaizen

One possible experiment I have envisioned is to become lucid in a dream, take the same substance,ie smoke DMT or take psilocybin mushrooms, and then see if I'm catapulted to the same place.

My friend assigned me a lucid task to smoke DMT before I'd smoked it in waking life.
I didn't encounter any beings, but I did experience the same ego death and time dilation that I later experienced in a waking DMT trip.
I think it would be interesting to explore altered states further in future LDs.

Amazing stuff Dreamer.
Altered states in dreams...this is where we're really getting into esoteric realms.
More experimentation has to take place
Super exciting

It seems that everyone and their mom has done DMT lately. I just don't feel special no more. (Note to those that havent tried it maybe you should just give it a go ^^)
Nice avatar btw, I have seen Chakra's symbols. All 7 of them both in DMT and in Lucid Dreams.

It seems that you can get psychedelic effects in lucid dreams just by thinking about the drug without actually taking it. Funny, I always get entities normally, last week i did this intense thinking of dmt during a dream and started seeing full-on hallucinations without entities. It is very unlike my normal DMT trips which does not come with these hallucinations. It is more akin to what I have read from others who experience DMT than my own hallucinatory experience with the drug. The effects in dreams was very pronounced, though.

But, the entities I have met on mushrooms. The real weird ones who are very social are just so unlike normal reality I would be hardfetched to recreate the setting in which we have met during normal lucid dreams. I would have to severely alter myself to get to this level. The very very exciting part to me is that one of them has left an anchor for me to find him with. I assume it was male because it had a female companion. This fella (lol) promised further contact with me, and said to me to remember his "signature sound". Anyone experienced with these sounds? Him and his female compagnion shared a certain pitch/frequency that was very unique. Both of them had their own unique signature that was obviously almost the same. (they called each other cousins) . But slightly altered. It is my understanding that each hyperspatial entity has this certain pitch. Or some of them do. I was told to remember the pitch so as to contact them at a later time. They said they would help me "break-through" so to speak. I would be super excited to try finding this frequency during a lucid dream but find myself slightly demotivated because I have only a handfull of these dreams a year! :'(

Furthermore, I have noticed an underlying "grid" for lack of better word that governs my lucid dreams which I have also discovered on extremely high dose of psilocybin. After this experience with mushrooms it has become apparent to me in lucid dreams that there is this underlying grid behind the normal lucid dream reality. If this is true the lucid dreamer is only scratching the surface of a much more complex reality. And I have no doubt that inter-dimensional travel is possible once one becomes aware of this "underlying grid".

Then there's this book by author "Avendar Dragon" called Scales of the dragon (part of a 6-12 series) which is chock-full of Mega-deity-DMT like entities experienced during dream-like astral-like experiences. Which I really recommend for anyone to read. Author generally disconnects his experiences from either dream or astral and does not categorize these experiences in this fashion. It is often jump-started from within his dream by a visit from his toltec spirit guide however. Anyway, very interesting read. Powerfully detailed, I must say.

Powerful post Dthoughts.
You really have my thinking juices flowing now.

It's unbelievably synchronistic that you have mentioned this "signature sound", as I have recently read a book by Terence McKennna titled True Hallucinations which a similar,if not identical phenomenon is extrapolated .

In the chapter labelled "The Opus", he highlights an experiment him and his fellow ethnobotanical scientist collegues performed in the heart of the Amazon basin ,whereby they use vocal invocation while in the midst of a high dose psilylocybin cubensis and "waa hey" ceremony. (Waa hey - DMT plant derivative used by the local Witoto tribe shamans)

Very briefly summarized the projected and hypothesized outcome was this:

"Mind and matter will fuse into a hyper-dimensional object that is the ultimate artifact at the end of time, whose very creation brings an end to time, leading humanity to a state in which all places and all times are instantly accessible at the speed of thought."

It was said that once this experiment was performed Dennis Mckenna,the subject guinea pig who transmitted the frequency vocally,gained certain "superpowers".... one of which being telepathy for approximately two weeks until he "came back to earth".

My articulation is crude and wouldn't really give the experiment justice,so i'll provide a link to his thoughts after the experiment was completed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alO9bd5lx5w

This idea that sound is the underlying medium for the unmanifest to manifest is mirrored in countless religions...

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God" John 1:1

"OM is the primordial sound, Logos or word that was present at the creation of the universe. It is the original sound that contains all other sounds, all words, all languages and all mantras.The vibration or sound of OM symbolizes the manifestation of God in form"

Similairly, different sound frequencies resonate and active certain chakras in the subtle and astral body.

Perhaps if we are able to replicate this unique frequency that resonates with the above mentioned entities they will be contacted?

Food for thought..and Food for action

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Thanks for that emotional rollercoaster. It is very soothing to hear the voice of Dennis and Terence Mckenna once again. Synchronisity is on a roll here because I know this audible segment by heart. This is the part that is likely followed by Dennis Mckenna's sudden awareness of the fact that Terence is wearing woman's underpanties at that time. How he got those on in the first place is still a mystery I am dying to find out in a private conversation with the man but it is unfortunate that he passed away so soon. Luckily however, his brother Dennis Mckenna is still in vital health and it just so happens that he holds a gem of information in his living embodiment and I wish to hear more about his subjective experience at the time during his 2 week psychosis-like state of mind.

Ugh, I wrote that yesterday at night. The serious overtone is bothering me and I feel much different this morning. The first observation I made just now is that Terence and Dennis Mckenna are some crazy motherfuckers!

One can't help but take it all with a grain of salt, but.. However.. The segment of Dennis his theory before going into the experiment literally describes a modus apparatus for physical travel into another dimension. If I understood correctly. But it turned out that something else transpired that he hadn't expected. His experiments where also accompanied by taking Harmine as well. Which consequently prolongs the effect of Psilocin and is likely partly responsible for inducing this 2 week coming back period that he experienced. Back at home I have mimic'd this experience with a stronger dose of Psilocybin that I originally intended on taking. Which resulted in said "Alien contact" experience which I described in my first post. There's another post in this forum where I go into more detail about the looks. His arms, wings, size, personality etc.

Said experience was done by creating a loud overtone with my voice which locked into a certain tone which was simultaneously heared coming from all directions outside of my periphical environment. When the two tones locked into each other I was no longer myself and I could feel a sort of electricity/vibration course through every single cell of my body. I became aware of an inner dimension perceived as being just outside who was inhabited by organic flying saucers which sets me on a trip because at the end of this clip Mckenna mentions "Flying saucers as the inhabitant of the invisible landscape" and I just don't understand if he means that literally or more or less as a funny metaphor.

But it was this clip that induced my experience. During the trip, segments of this audio came to mind and I intuitively started doing the same. About those sounds heared in hyperspace though. I think it is an interesting connection here. Mckenna mentions it in this clip as a sort of telepathic language so complex that it dwarfs ordinary human language. And I must say that I agree. I really need to speak more to these "things" I have only met them once. But some of them make musical tones and others are more non-human in their tones. And even though we have evolved throats that are capable of making more sounds than any other living creature on earth. Which is a very interesting development, by the way. I think we would be hardfetched to conduct the same sounds heared in hyperspace even with all our acoustical deviced joined together. Which is another interesting fact of hyperspace. One can't help but wonder where these sounds originated from and what their ultimate purpose is.

Ok so they Egyptians back in the olden days were worshiping anything that they felt was grater then them. people created things in their imagination such like their "Gods" and sculpted them to have something to worship cause everyone has that. Everyone looks for something in their life that they view is greater then them and they idolise it. So in the modern day world let me tell you what these "other worldy beings" are. have you ever heard of Jinn? Some of those fuckers (majority) are very cruel and evil. The powerfull ones can shapeshift into different animals and humans. They have the ability to see us and we can't see them. This is easily explained through astral projection. When people astral project people talk about seeing these "shadow people" which are the Jinn 6-8 ft tall pretty creepy felows (allthough you have nopthing to feel). So anyway they have the abilty to travel down the spiritual spectrum and interact in the most basic demension aka the world you live in and see everyday. Some people very high spiritually can see them in our every day world but thats so hard. So people can see them when they astral project (im pretty sure about this point at least) because you are in your souls form which is VERY spiritual so we can travel to their demension and go higher than that because we are better then them. Just like we have our 5 senses they have their out of the ordinary senses like flying, shapshifting, possesion, etc. Anyway we are better then them because they are dumb, we have an amzing thing called a brain thats more powerfull then anything they have. People sadly befriend these bastards and it so bad. They get curropt and they do TERRIBLe and disgusting things to gain "POWER" but in the end they just screw the person over. I hate to break it to you but their are no supernatural beings other then angels and jinn. Angels are devine beings and people befriend them as well and they do the opposite of what the jinn do to you. they raise your spirituality and they arnt evil lol. Please respect what i have to say if you dissagree please just politly tell me what you think but i can tell you 100% that their is nothing out there other than humans, jinn, and angels (and God) lol thanks for reading!

I don't know if you still read this thread Kaizen. But I found that chakra picture you showed very interesting. I'm also slightly obsessed with sound, I've been using it for awhile now to use it to alter my state of being/awareness. One frequency that I've been kind of obsessed with is B flat. I had an...interesting experience during a meditation with that tone. AND in your picture of the chakras it's the tone between the upper and lower or slightly beyond them depending on how you want to look at it. I'm probably just being crazy but I thought that was neat ^^.

But I suppose I'm more so slightly obsessed with sound in general because of music and the way that it can act like an immediate link between emotion and this world. It's almost like the crystallized form of emotion and we can use that to directly share feelings with other people! I love that!

And then I also had another experience during some 'extended introspection' where I focused on making my energy rise higher. I say higher because that's how it feels but I don't think that high or low has anything to do with it. But anyways I was making it spiral because I can't sustain the push for that long so it goes up and then down and then higher each consecutive time and I kept doing that to see how long I could sustain it before I got too scared to continue. At one point of the peak I felt this glorious ecstasy and I started to hear these beautiful tones. Very much like the auditory hallucinations that I experience right before I pass into dreams, except I was wide awake. And it was as though these fantastic tones were making me feel this glorious ecstasy. Now the scientist part of me says that it was probably just a series of neurotransmitters being released in response to being under extreme pain for sitting in the same position for so long. But the experience felt like it was more than that and the sounds were so indescribably beautiful.

Originally Posted by Kaizen

My question to you guys is this:

Have any of you contacted beings that fit descriptions of these beings in your lucid state while jouneying?

Hi,

Thanks for the question.

yeah I have had many visits from those typical grey looking alien creature things. But I don't think they are aliens. Mostly experiences with them are comical in a creepy sort of way, it's like they want to keep monitoring things, sometimes they find a way into my dreams. Sort of like hacking me, where I have a security flaw.

One example I was dreaming and a ship randomly comes in, and just beams me up into it lol. I was dazed and walked up to a reception on the desk. And this alien with big black eyes says in a fashion similar to a receptionist doctor "may I help you". And I respond "um, yes, you abducted me?". And he looks at his computer and goes "yes, let me just check your file". Then I got this vision in my head. All the consumerism in the world, all the procedure for customer service and commercial transactions of this nature, that these beings were the originates of that garbage. And this was a first hand experience of them performing it, It wasn't that they were copying off what I had seen, but that humans were copying off them! After they checked my file I don't know what happened after that. They didn't allow me to memorize the full thing, but some kind of horrible medical experiment or some type of unspeakable horror awaited my apointment. Either God edited this out, or it was removed somehow, cause things were not allowed to go any further but I do remember a feeling of dread like that feeling just before you are about to be tortured. It was funny only because of the way they delt with me not because of the dread. Other times they have done things that have made me laugh but it always has a creepy unnatural tone to it, and I take it as a sign that I have left something unchecked in which they have 'hacked', same as all the attacks in my dreams.

I forgot to add, that these entities are good at 'mind screwing' you. they obviously feel evil, but they react in a way where your mind is tricked into thinking they are harmless. When you get really terrified as an example, they will create this artifical sort of calmness around you, to make you calm down. It is really weird how intelligent they are, and you could never outsmart them on your own. Lot of times in my dream their craft has stalked me before like flying around the sky really fast, and I am thinking 'not again, they are here', and they just give off this really evil dangerous vibe where you feel it's highly unstable and dangerous when you see their craft. I happen to think these are the fallen Angels. Even talking about encounters with them, can scare people. But there is also positive encounters where entities will be for your best interest, it's just telling the difference.

Originally Posted by ~ Dreamer ~

My friend assigned me a lucid task to smoke DMT before I'd smoked it in waking life.
I didn't encounter any beings, but I did experience the same ego death and time dilation that I later experienced in a waking DMT trip.
I think it would be interesting to explore altered states further in future LDs.

Very interesting. I have tried using drugs in dreams before but I was totally immune to their effects. I have had very abstract dreams before in which I was experiencing altered states of consciousness, however. I also cannot feel pain in my dreams, and never have, assuming I have not experienced pain in dreams I do not remember. Have you tried any other drugs in dreams? If so, what were they like?

My inability to experience drugs or pain in dreams might be a side effect of my overly abstract and odd dreams, too. I almost never have "regular" dreams like my friends claim to have on a regular basis. Any time I ever tell anybody my dreams, they always comment that they are extremely weird.

Originally Posted by snoop

Very interesting. I have tried using drugs in dreams before but I was totally immune to their effects. I have had very abstract dreams before in which I was experiencing altered states of consciousness, however. I also cannot feel pain in my dreams, and never have, assuming I have not experienced pain in dreams I do not remember. Have you tried any other drugs in dreams? If so, what were they like?

My inability to experience drugs or pain in dreams might be a side effect of my overly abstract and odd dreams, too. I almost never have "regular" dreams like my friends claim to have on a regular basis. Any time I ever tell anybody my dreams, they always comment that they are extremely weird.

I should probably mention that the DMT dream was not my first experience with altered states, so that didn't just come from nowhere. I had never tried psychedelic drugs before, but I'm schizophrenic and have experienced natural altered states which are very reminiscent of the psychedelic state. I've gone into that a bit more over a few posts in the Psychonauts thread (and I plan to make another update there soonish.)

I have also experienced altered states triggered by dream-marijuana. The effects have been similar to the negative effects I experience in waking life, which makes me think that there's a large psychological factor to my waking experiences as well. I think the opposite could probably be achieved if you were to create a strong enough positive expectation that you would have a psychedelic experience when using drugs in dreams.

The other thing that's sort of interesting about this goal is that to truly experience the full psychedelic experience, you need to let go of your logic and ego. In a lucid dream, you're trying to remain aware of who/where you really are and what you're really experiencing, and there tends to be a focus of not losing your sense of self during that time. I think you'd need to make a conscious decision to let that go if you wanted to fully enter a drug trip in-dream, which might cause you to lose lucidity. That's sort of what happened during my DMT dream - there was a period in the middle where my memories are very hazy, just like a waking life DMT trip. I know there were very intense feelings/experiences, and I can remember some of the visual/auditory details, but for the bulk of the experience, I felt like I was somewhere else that I can no longer connect with/comprehend, and I didn't have a sense of self during that time at all. It was disorienting waking back into a dream after that - it took me a moment to get my bearings again and gain enough lucidity to try to burn the experience into my memory before waking up for real.

Snoop: I'd be really curious to read a dream of yours, if you ever felt like posting one (either publicly or privately.) I still owe you a PM too, I haven't forgotten, just been busy lately.

Originally Posted by Kaizen

Salutations fellow Oneiranouts.

For the last couple of months I have been doing some research into various starseeds, the multi-dimensional nature of consciousness and the extrastellar spaces it could possibly inhabit.

The possibility that you where previously a being originating from a distant star system (Pleiades,Sirius,Arcturus,Vega etc) and are now re-incarnated into this 3 dimensional space on Earth in this homosapien form is,to my logic, very plausible.

Alternate ancient historians argue,with valid and substantiated evidence,that pre-Historic Egyptians worshiped Sirius for a reason.
The hieroglyphs depict numerous humanoid beings that where treated as Gods.


This is one of the many examples of ancient pre-historic races worshiping/communicating with otherworldy entities.

My question to you guys is this:

Have any of you contacted beings that fit descriptions of these beings in your lucid state while jouneying?

I will be really interested to hear from anyone that feels they have some interesting information to share regardingwhether it be from first hand experience or something they read/heard.


Any comments related are also welcome

Thanks

Hi,


I think there are more then 3 dimensions, but for now we can perceive only 3 when we are awake.. Even definition of "dimension" is not really clear, anyway its another topic.

Yes I experience similar dreams, here is the link. It is the most significant dream for me so far.
The Final Dream | flow of my soul

I have had numerous experience in the dream state, lucid dream state, and during out of body experiences with a group of entities that appear to be extraterrestrials/extradimensional beings. They have an appearance similar to the grey alien on the cover of Whitley Strieber's book Communion, although they are a pale orange color rather than grey.

I had one experience in which I was contacted by one of these beings in a nonphysical dimension and they revealed to me that I was a member of their species in a previous lifetime and I was soul mates with the entity who was visiting me. I experienced the truth of my previous identity and my connection with this being as direct first hand experience. During the encounter, the being embraced me and I experienced a flood of memories and insights which reveals these things.

In another experience while out of body, I was aboard a space craft somewhere deep in the universe with these beings and they informed me that I had made an agreement with them before this life to have some kind of relationship or interaction with these beings during my life on Earth.

It is not uncommon to run into these beings lurking around my body in the real-time zone before and during separating from my body.

The jury is still out on what their true nature and intentions are. I have had experiences of both deep love and fear with them.

The closest I've come to this in dreams is when I've dreamt of UFOs. I've had mixed reactions to them, and after seeing them in waking life my reaction in dreams changed as well.

The first dream of a UFO was really frightening for no reason. I had walked into my back porch room and instantly felt and saw this black triangular UFO above me in the sky. It was weird because I would switch between first person, and seeing the UFO in the sky. Even though it wasn't doing anything but hovering there, I succumbed to unnecessary terror lol. When I woke up I had no idea why I was so scared and wished I had tried to interact more with this object.

Another dream, I was in some barren landscape at night, and this UFO landed on a hill a few yards away from me. I approached it and doors opened. I can't remember if I encountered a being, but I saw someone lying down unconscious inside of it. I think a being then told me to leave, and then after I walked back out of it, the UFO took off.

Post waking-life encounter with UFOs, my reactions in dreams had changed from fear to amazement. I would either space out and stare in wonder or flip out in excitement. Here are a couple cases:

I was standing on a hill in a field at night. A friend was standing next to me. I was gazing up at the night sky, and several lights start to appear. They are circular shaped/spectral and about a dozen appeared. At first I was chill and thinking "wow, look at that!" and then started pointing and saying to my friend "hey look they are here!". In retrospect I forget what color they were, I think they were blue or white.

Another time outside in a field, I saw a bunch of spectral lights appear in the sky. I was just looking in awe lol.



So wow, I'm seeing a trend of night time haha, but it may have to do with the fact that I saw some at night in waking life. Don't know whats up with all these fields though. Haven't actually communicated with them in dreams (I'm sure it would make a good dream journal tale), but I feel like having the intent to make contact, and being open-minded about it, facilitates some sort of beacon for communication. If you actually get lucid, why not try the old fashioned way of asking the dream to take you to them, or for them to show themselves?

I had a few encounters, though I'll only trust things that appeared from within me. I don't have the skill to indentify if what comes from outside is faking his/hers/it's feelings or identity, so I ended up concluding that it's not worth it to enter in contact with external beings.

Inside of me there's a fox, though the form is not that important in this.