Thread: Archetype Control: An Elegant Tool

Really looking forward to building your own archetypes, because using old archetypes seems flawed or limiting to me.

Say, I'm a very socially anxious person, and what I have been recommended is cognitive exercises of imagining doing well. Do you think that sorta works by changing your schemas for social interaction?

I think this says a lot about the nature of dreams, that our ideas and beliefs are all around us in dreams. I think it might be fun to explore what archetypes are already in your personal dream world.

But this helps to explain a lot of weird and quirky things in dreams. One time I tried to force my little garden to grow and explode into a jungle. It didn't work. The more I commanded my plants to grow, the more they shriveled.

But in another dream I was just so happy I was singing while staring at my plants. Suddenly my plants grew wild! Now that I think about it, that was an archetype in motion. Because I'm total hippie and I've believed for years that singing, loving, and playing music for plants is beneficial to their growth, and not uh, yelling at them.

Explore your head!

Im still Excited about Part 3 :3

Part 3 is half done, but I probably won't be able to get to the other half until after finals.

Awesome work, Mzzkc. This is actually the best thing I've read here on DV for quite some time. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Raspberry

This sounds a lot more fun than just trying to force things to happen

It totally is.

Originally Posted by Pheenix

Really looking forward to building your own archetypes, because using old archetypes seems flawed or limiting to me.

It's actually pretty straightforward. And you can use the same methods to build up pre-existing archetypes as well.

The hard part is teaching it well. XP

Originally Posted by Pheenix

Say, I'm a very socially anxious person, and what I have been recommended is cognitive exercises of imagining doing well. Do you think that sorta works by changing your schemas for social interaction?

I'd say that's likely the case. Working schemas in waking life can often be just as useful as manipulating them in the dream-state. After all, schemas are used all the time IWL, but it's so automatic no one really notices.

Originally Posted by juroara

I think this says a lot about the nature of dreams, that our ideas and beliefs are all around us in dreams. I think it might be fun to explore what archetypes are already in your personal dream world.

Do you mean in-dream or through retrospection? I've done the latter, but the former could prove quite interesting.

Originally Posted by juroara

But this helps to explain a lot of weird and quirky things in dreams. One time I tried to force my little garden to grow and explode into a jungle. It didn't work. The more I commanded my plants to grow, the more they shriveled.

But in another dream I was just so happy I was singing while staring at my plants. Suddenly my plants grew wild! Now that I think about it, that was an archetype in motion. Because I'm total hippie and I've believed for years that singing, loving, and playing music for plants is beneficial to their growth, and not uh, yelling at them.

Explore your head!

Haha, awesome example, thanks for sharing!

Originally Posted by XeL

Awesome work, Mzzkc. This is actually the best thing I've read here on DV for quite some time. Thanks!

It's good to hear this stuff is making some impact.

And thanks for the praise, it means a lot. ^.^

Would this be a personal archetype to me? I like to climb things in real life, pretty much anything, tree's, buildings, anything. I tried to remember that in a LD, and sort of "Climbed Air"

There's no record of it though, my comp was broken at the time.

Mzzkc, what about third part? The article will be perfect with it!

Originally Posted by Phantasos

Mzzkc, what about third part? The article will be perfect with it!

It's sitting in limbo, half finished. =(

Unfortunately, this project keeps falling to the bottom of my to-do list, as I've got a few other dream related projects I'm currently working on.

More than that, it's very difficult to write about and teach this subject in an efficient/accurate/lucid way. That hurts my motivation a bit there. XP

Originally Posted by Mzzkc

It's sitting in limbo, half finished. =(

Unfortunately, this project keeps falling to the bottom of my to-do list, as I've got a few other dream related projects I'm currently working on.

More than that, it's very difficult to write about and teach this subject in an efficient/accurate/lucid way. That hurts my motivation a bit there. XP

Take all the time you need! We're lucid dreamers... I'm sure we've all learned how to be patient haha That excluded noobs, but I'm sure they'll manage to survive.

Originally Posted by Raspberry

Take all the time you need! We're lucid dreamers... I'm sure we've all learned how to be patient haha That excluded noobs, but I'm sure they'll manage to survive.

I lol'd.

This idea sound interesting and promising. It also reminds me of the idea of passive control vs. active control, although quite different.

I've been having trouble meeting a specific person in my lucid dreams. Is there an archetype I could use to help with this goal? I can't seem to think of one...

Yeah, just use the moments IWL where you've found someone you were looking for. If you get too caught up on the looking, you'll never find the person. Therefore, it's better to simply default to the finding.

Great post, will definitely help me with control the next time i get a lucid! I look forward to discovering how much I have learned from various videogames, animes, and movies.

Originally Posted by Raspberry

Take all the time you need! We're lucid dreamers... I'm sure we've all learned how to be patient haha That excluded noobs, but I'm sure they'll manage to survive.

Hahaha yea we all hate noobs ... (I am one)

Originally Posted by Littleshogunn

Hahaha yea we all hate noobs ... (I am one)

Aw I don't hate noobs I was one only a little while ago.

But I have noticed that we got an explosion of noobs this january. Noobs everywhere!!!

Originally Posted by Raspberry

Noobs everywhere!!!

This sentence is one letter away from meaning something awesome.

I had a dream where I was trying to run away from a zombie infested island by flying a plane. The controls of the plane were the same as in GTA San Andreas. I have never been great at the planes in the game and my skills transferred to the dream. I wasn't able to get very far.

Can't wait for 3 Does that make me a noob?

Part three is done, but won't be up until Puffin checks her inbox. XP

Hope it doesn't disappoint.

Yay!!!!!

Let's hope Puffin checks her inbox soon

Originally Posted by Mario92

This sentence is one letter away from meaning something awesome.

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Doesn't look like Puffin is responding. =(

I contacted Cacophony about it; let's hope for the best, neh?