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      Is there a way to maintain lucidity during False Awakening?

      When I become lucid most reasons why I lose lucidity in a short amount of time is because of false awakenings, when false awakening occurs for me majority of the time it makes me question reality again. My RC's in these type of situations seems to always fail me and look completely normal, I have not gotten the chance to use the breathing through nose technique and will try it next time. However sometimes I lose the lucidity entirely after a false awakening occurs and won't have the awareness to use a RC at all.

      I'm wondering is there a way to maintain my lucidity during an FA or is there a way to instantly become lucid again after the FA happens?
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      Hi,

      You can try to make habit of making mindful reality check everytime you wake up.
      And when doing them be confident that they will show you that your dreaming and that weird stuff will happen,

      If you have any more questions i'il try to answer them.
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      Hi ViIe, something I do, especially if I know I may have a FA (such as entering the void, falling through the floor, or attempting DEILD) is remind myself that the next thing I see will be a dream. This works well in my experience as it sets the mind up to notice absurdities (like waking up in a room you've never been in, or suddenly being approached by chatty DCs in your own home, etc.). And the nose pinch is a very good RC. Glad to see you had se success recently in your DJ as well!
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      Quote Originally Posted by MisakaMikoto View Post
      Hi,

      You can try to make habit of making mindful reality check everytime you wake up.
      And when doing them be confident that they will show you that your dreaming and that weird stuff will happen,

      If you have any more questions i'il try to answer them.
      Thanks that advice has been helpful Misaka I will make sure to do an RC every time I wake up from now on to fix the FA problem. Though I do have 1 more question, is there a way to get through a false awakening without it making someone lose their lucidity? Or does it depend on the level of lucidity a person has as I read some other people experience with FA and they manage to go through the entire process without losing any awareness.


      Quote Originally Posted by ThreeCat View Post
      Hi ViIe, something I do, especially if I know I may have a FA (such as entering the void, falling through the floor, or attempting DEILD) is remind myself that the next thing I see will be a dream. This works well in my experience as it sets the mind up to notice absurdities (like waking up in a room you've never been in, or suddenly being approached by chatty DCs in your own home, etc.). And the nose pinch is a very good RC. Glad to see you had se success recently in your DJ as well!
      Yes I was amaze that it work so quickly and that is a good idea, I have to make it a habit that when I do wake up from an LD or an FA occurs my 1st intention has to be a RC. I still have a habit of using the finger count RC which I usually have difficulties with but will constantly try the nose pinch so it will transition to my dreams as well. These are great answers thanks.
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      I belive it depends on two factors
      - Waking Awareness
      - How Lucid You Are?

      It might be possible to retain lucidity by stable habit of questioning reality after waking up (Reality Checks, Awareness, Dream Signs etc).
      That would be 'Waking Awareness' way, you've trained yourself to overcome 'False Awakenings' by doubting whether you truly woke up and due to those doubts questioning the reality.

      And there's a second way which would basing on 'How Lucid You Are?' if you were having low lucid dream then after a 'False Awakening' you might just take it as granted that you woke up and therefore belive that you are no longer in a dream and that it is a waking world (But it is still possible to figure out that you had a false awakening even with low lucidity) yet if you were slightly lucid not just a tiny bit you might act the different way.
      Example:
      - Your relaxing on hot beach in your lucid dream at which you just arrived
      - Your happy that you can spend your time on beach and yet you had one thought 'Oh man, i hope i won't experienec false awakening' (This triggered passive dream control)
      - You woke up in bed
      - Your like: Woah i woke up, i had a nice lucid dream didn't i?
      - Wait... Before waking up i feared that i might have false awakening and it happend
      - I might be still in lucid dream
      - Oh... I need to keep myself calm at the moment aswell or i'il destabilize the dream if i'm truly in it.
      - I'il just take a look at my hands and see if they are normal, hopefully they are not and i'm still in my amazing dream world.
      - Huh? They are quite blurry and are dark pink, i guess that proves that i'm still in dream, Hell Yeah!
      - *You become once more lucid and decide to teleport yourself back to beach to relax once more while waiting for arrival of the pirate ships
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      Hmmm... any time I wake up from an LD or a dream, I try to go back to the dream. If I can't get back (my DEILD method is similar to teleporting, so if I am in a dream I have a high chance of it working) to the dream, I do a RC and get up. I would recommend at least RCing every time that you get up! That being said, I have been on a bad sleep schedule lately and missed two FAs this week!

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      Quote Originally Posted by MisakaMikoto View Post
      I belive it depends on two factors
      - Waking Awareness
      - How Lucid You Are?

      It might be possible to retain lucidity by stable habit of questioning reality after waking up (Reality Checks, Awareness, Dream Signs etc).
      That would be 'Waking Awareness' way, you've trained yourself to overcome 'False Awakenings' by doubting whether you truly woke up and due to those doubts questioning the reality.

      And there's a second way which would basing on 'How Lucid You Are?' if you were having low lucid dream then after a 'False Awakening' you might just take it as granted that you woke up and therefore belive that you are no longer in a dream and that it is a waking world (But it is still possible to figure out that you had a false awakening even with low lucidity) yet if you were slightly lucid not just a tiny bit you might act the different way.
      Example:
      - Your relaxing on hot beach in your lucid dream at which you just arrived
      - Your happy that you can spend your time on beach and yet you had one thought 'Oh man, i hope i won't experienec false awakening' (This triggered passive dream control)
      - You woke up in bed
      - Your like: Woah i woke up, i had a nice lucid dream didn't i?
      - Wait... Before waking up i feared that i might have false awakening and it happend
      - I might be still in lucid dream
      - Oh... I need to keep myself calm at the moment aswell or i'il destabilize the dream if i'm truly in it.
      - I'il just take a look at my hands and see if they are normal, hopefully they are not and i'm still in my amazing dream world.
      - Huh? They are quite blurry and are dark pink, i guess that proves that i'm still in dream, Hell Yeah!
      - *You become once more lucid and decide to teleport yourself back to beach to relax once more while waiting for arrival of the pirate ships
      I fully agree, thanks again for the information.

      Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
      Hmmm... any time I wake up from an LD or a dream, I try to go back to the dream. If I can't get back (my DEILD method is similar to teleporting, so if I am in a dream I have a high chance of it working) to the dream, I do a RC and get up. I would recommend at least RCing every time that you get up! That being said, I have been on a bad sleep schedule lately and missed two FAs this week!
      That's a very creative idea though I need more experience with DEILD so I'll definitely try to work on that. If you're already in a dream and you are attempting DEILD does that automatically make you become lucid if you're already there? Because if that's the case that would also be helpful to get through an FA. Thanks for the new ideas.
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      Thanks.

      Yes. It makes me lucid like 99% of the time. It is always good to find things that work both in waking and sleeping.

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