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      Meditation Lesson 2 Replies (Sem 1)

      If I may ask, why is it limited to 15 minutes per session?

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      Quote Originally Posted by LucidAvenger View Post
      If I may ask, why is it limited to 15 minutes per session?
      Sorry, I should have clarified; if you have already been practicing meditation for a fair amount of time, feel free to go for as long as you think is right. The reason beginners should start with 15 minutes max is because longer periods of meditation have been known to strain the mind for some people who haven't meditated before. So it's best to build up from 15 minutes to longer periods, rather than jump straight into the deep end, so to speak.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ShockWave View Post
      The reason beginners should start with 15 minutes max is because longer periods of meditation have been known to strain the mind for some people who haven't meditated before. So it's best to build up from 15 minutes to longer periods, rather than jump straight into the deep end, so to speak.
      Didn't know that, thanks

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      thanks for the lesson

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      I wonder if you can actually clear your mind of ALL thoughts when doing void meditation. I can't imagine having completely no thoughts :O
      The only thing I'm able to is to reduce the ammount and then ignore the rest.
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      same here katsuno

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      Quote Originally Posted by Katsuno View Post
      I wonder if you can actually clear your mind of ALL thoughts when doing void meditation. I can't imagine having completely no thoughts :O
      The only thing I'm able to is to reduce the ammount and then ignore the rest.
      It's not clearing your mind of all thoughts, but it isn't ignoring them all either. Essentially, void meditation is similar to when you are falling asleep, and when you are in non-REM sleep. After 'sorting' through all the thoughts that you would normally sort through while you are going to sleep, less and less thoughts will surface in your mind. I'm not sure if it's because no thoughts are entering your mind any more, or because your mind is subconsciously ignoring them or something.

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      Ok, I understand it now
      So, if you are successful with void meditation you can easily get into the state of between sleep and being awake?
      I don't really know how to describe it but when I wake up sometimes I'm in that state. I don't realize that I'm awake but I'm not asleep either. Only after about 10 minutes I finally realize that I woke up and I can't remember what happened during this state (it's like there is a "void" in my mind and I didn't think anything). That's also how I got into sp my first time (I was in that "void" and when I became conscious again I was in sp and wilded for the first time )
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      Katsuno sounds like you would be pro at DEILD

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      Quote Originally Posted by Katsuno View Post
      So, if you are successful with void meditation you can easily get into the state of between sleep and being awake?
      The more you practice void meditation and reach deeper meditative states, the easier it becomes to reach those states again, so if you keep practicing, I'd imagine you could eventually induce that state at will.

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      Last edited by Shockk; 05-27-2011 at 06:17 PM.

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      Ahh Ok, thanks for the answer ShockWave

      @LucidAvenger Haha yeah I was pretty good at deild but I stopped due to school (can't sleep long )
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      Quote Originally Posted by Katsuno View Post
      I wonder if you can actually clear your mind of ALL thoughts when doing void meditation. I can't imagine having completely no thoughts :O
      The only thing I'm able to is to reduce the ammount and then ignore the rest.
      At first it may seem impossible, but now that ive done it for awhile actually having thoughts is sometimes weird to me. Technically speaking, you will still hear white noise or the sound during meditation, its very relaxing.

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      What would you call a 'deep' state of meditation?

      Any questions about lucid dreaming? Drop me a PM here!

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      Quote Originally Posted by fOrceez View Post
      What would you call a 'deep' state of meditation?
      Deeper states of meditation are just those where you become more and more relaxed and more aware etc. As you practice meditation more, you'll feel like you're getting deeper into meditation.

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      Personally i think dreaming (lucid or non lucid) is a form of deep meditation. Your essentially seperating your awareness from your physical body and moving it else where. There are also parallels between the breathing and relaxation when sleeping and practicing deep meditation. The trick is to be fully conscious when your in a deep meditative state. namaste
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      "when you fall unconscious, what your mind expresses is a dream.
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      When you are in a higher state of consciousness, it not only creates the life of whatever you want, but also on whom ever you want". -LifeBlissFoundation

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      Quote Originally Posted by dreamcatcher81 View Post
      Personally i think dreaming (lucid or non lucid) is a form of deep meditation. Your essentially seperating your awareness from your physical body and moving it else where. There are also parallels between the breathing and relaxation when sleeping and practicing deep meditation. The trick is to be fully conscious when your in a deep meditative state. namaste
      That's an interesting take on dreaming and meditation. Certainly, it's likely that void meditation puts you into a state similar to non-REM sleep, and maybe focal meditation into a state similar to REM sleep. I don't know what to make of the possibility of it being the other way around. (You've got me thinking now!)

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      Omg ShockWave! Its your fault that i got 2 lucid dreams right after each other! You are god! xD Happy Lucid Dreaming...! xD
      Last edited by kris9995; 06-26-2011 at 10:30 PM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by kris9995 View Post
      Omg ShockWave! Its your fault that i got 2 lucid dreams right after each other! You are god! xD Happy Lucid Dreaming...! xD
      Glad I could help... I guess! You may find the other lessons useful too if you enjoyed this one.

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