Thread: Justin Bieber Discussion

Tommo I think I know what your problem is, you just don't have enough Bieber in your life. So here's another Bieber video to hold you over until his new album drops. No need to thank me.

Originally Posted by XeL

I'm shocked. Are you uncapable of arguing on an objective basis? Don't you understand that this is not about how YOU feel, it's about how the listeners feel. They want this kind of music. They like this kind of music. It has a personal value to them. It's not up to YOU to decide whether or not it's good enough.

People can listen to whatever they want, but it's still bad for them, like smoking. What I described isn't just how I personally feel about it. It's how just about everyone would feel if they took the time to think about what the songs' lyrics are saying and what mindsets they cause listeners to have.

Originally Posted by XeL

Murder and listening to Justin Bieber is still not comparable. A murder is direct action with a direct effect.

And this is an action with a less direct effect. I don't see the problem.

Originally Posted by XeL

This statement is once again not backed up by any scientific data, just your own opinion.

The consequences I mentioned seem likely to me, based on my experiences, in listening to similar music when I was younger and witnessing others listening to similar music now.

Originally Posted by XeL

Does my own personal hatred towards the fast and the furious movies justify oppression towards the fans of the movie?

Not opression. It might justify you looking down upon the people who like the movie. It depends on what your problem with it is.

Originally Posted by Dianeva

People can listen to whatever they want, but it's still bad for them, like smoking. What I described isn't just how I personally feel about it. It's how just about everyone would feel if they took the time to think about what the songs' lyrics are saying and what mindsets they cause listeners to have.

I don't agree. Are you also under the conception that violent video games make the vast majority of the players more violent? Does pornography make all men believe that women love to get cum all over their faces?

And this is an action with a less direct effect. I don't see the problem.

It's not comparable since you're assuming that there is a general effect which you can apply on all people listening to Justin Bieber. A murder can only be one thing. Object A kills object B without the consent of object B. A stated fact which you can apply on all murders.

I can agree that his songs promote certain values or ideas, but that itself doesn't doesn't give girls a disorted idea of love. It might in some rare cases contribute, just like violent video games in extremely rare cases contribute to make people more violent. Does that fact alone make video games bad?

The consequences I mentioned seem likely to me, based on my experiences, in listening to similar music when I was younger and witnessing others listening to similar music now.

I disagree. My experience says otherwise. To me it sounds like you're making a mountain out of a molehill.

Not opression. It might justify you looking down upon the people who like the movie. It depends on what your problem with it is.

It promotes the absence of all the things you stated in a previous post.

Justin Bieber made it cool for white kids to act black. And there's nothing wrong with that, jack. Feel me?

Originally Posted by Jeff777

Justin Bieber made it cool for white kids to act black. And there's nothing wrong with that, jack. Feel me?

Originally Posted by seroquel

That's DIFFERENT. >:{

Justin Bieber made it cool for black kids to act like white kids acting black. And when you look at what's "black" nowadays, it's basically dressing like some corny white kid from the early 90s. Fucking hipsters mang.

Justin Bieber made nothing cool.

Justin Bieber made everything cool.

ugh i freaking hate justin bieber. the only thing he was good for was taking the world's attention off the damn jonas brothers

Hey man, don't you shit talk the Jonas Brothers.

The look on Biebz face when he reads some of the posts in this thread.

Nah, that's his face when he saw female genetalia for the first time.

Yeah, when he looked down while going to the toilet.

Only someone insecure about their own masculinity would offer an unoriginal joke like that. I might be taking these comments a little too seriously though, I can't help myself.

ya know any girl who trys to get near justin recieves death threats from his fans. idk why that makes news...........