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      I'm a little unsure about how to feel about Oakland. On one hand, they're saying the police only went ballistic after people were throwing bottles at them. If that's true, I'm a little sad because this whole thing seems to be predicated (to some) on the idea of this staying non-violent. After all the hard work they've done in NY to keep the image clean, the aggression strictly 1-directional... they even cleaned the shit out of the park when it became an issue. With this spreading into so many cities, it's kind of dumb to think everyone would follow the shining example, especially in Oakland, lol.

      But on the other hand, fuck all that. The cops fractured a dude's skull, they're using flash-bangs, rubber bullets, etc,.... there's that clip where the one dude is knocked out cold on the street, possibly seriously injured, a crowd gathers around to help him, and the fucking cop SEES all this (the injured guy was right in front of the line of cops before the crowd came) and throws a gas canister right in the middle of the crowd he DAMN WELL KNOWS is there to render aid to an badly injured person... what the fuck!!

      So all this is in response to some people allegedly throwing bottles, and in all likely hood everyone who was actually assaulted by the police were being peaceful, out exercising their first amendment rights (which is the only "permit" they should need). All this "collateral damage" should start to seem familiar to anyone who's been paying attention to Iraq. Except each individual protester doesn't represent a potential death threat.

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      I think this deserves to go here, possible I think it deserves a new thread.



      This guy needs way more views too. I've been watching him for quite a while and he's never got more than a few thousand.

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      I watched the oakland videos the night that went down. In those videos I didn't see any violent protesters :/ .But I did hear a lot of "OUR STREET! OUR STREET!". Would you know where the claims of violent protesters are coming from?

      I find it shocking that this is happening here in America, and even more shocking that the average American has no idea! Occupy needs online social media. I want to find videos of all the cities and share them. If we don't make ourselves aware of whats going on, who will?

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      Quote Originally Posted by juroara View Post
      Occupy needs online social media
      They have several. Youtube, twitter, Facebook. Almost all of the coverage of the Occupy movement has come from viral videos.

      Anonymous attacked Oakland yesterday. Looks like they broke into their database, stole a bunch of contact info, then crashed their site. Here is some of the contact info that they stole oakland police #info - Pastebin.com and seems there is more to come. There is a $1000 reward for the name of the office who shot the veteran, probably not going to happen though, since in the video, I can't even tell who took the shot or who threw the bombs at the people who went to help him

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      I agree, they need one site, not sure if there is one, with all the police brutality videos. And just spread that as much as possible.
      I've been posting things to my facebook wall, but only one person out of like 90 or something I have on there actually cares.

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      Mass releasing private details of police offers... what a fucking stupid thing to do.

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      Look at the names. They are the senior officers, ie the ones who would have given the orders to arm the police with weapons to assault a peaceful demonstration. Everyone knows they will not be dealt with by their own police department. When public officials do wrong, and their superiors won't address it, it's up to the public to retaliate. The police should know that and remember that before shooting unarmed peaceful protesters with rubber bullets and flash bombing people who rush to help someone they hurt. They've been warned about that misconduct at these protests will be met with retaliation from the public.

      They haven't released any info on the low level people who were just following orders, they released the info on the people who gave the orders. Seems fair to me. The only blue collar cop who needs to be exposed is the one who took the shot.

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      There is something wrong with you, ninja. You're one of the most negative people I've come across, and I genuinely feel sorry for you. You're? warped sense of justice is pathetic, and I'm shocked no one here has told you this.

      I don't like/dislike you, I just don't understand why your constant need for attention has to come with such a vile/dirty aura attached to it. Get laid, bud.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      Look at the names. They are the senior officers, ie the ones who would have given the orders to arm the police with weapons to assault a peaceful demonstration. Everyone knows they will not be dealt with by their own police department. When public officials do wrong, and their superiors won't address it, it's up to the public to retaliate. The police should know that and remember that before shooting unarmed peaceful protesters with rubber bullets and flash bombing people who rush to help someone they hurt. They've been warned about that misconduct at these protests will be met with retaliation from the public.

      They haven't released any info on the low level people who were just following orders, they released the info on the people who gave the orders. Seems fair to me. The only blue collar cop who needs to be exposed is the one who took the shot.
      Amen to that.

      Why is it fucking stupid Xei?

      Also, I think the cop who did it will almost certainly be found. There are other video tapers there, so they should eventually upload their videos as well.
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      Huh? I think that throwing flash bombs at people rushing to the aid of someone injured is not just, you find that warped? I know that the police investigation will be a joke and the worst that will happen to a cop is missing a few vacation days and think it's up to the tax payers they are supposed to be protecting to call them on it. I'm quiet sure the only people who would find that warped have something wrong with their sense of society.

      I'm quiet the opposite of negative, come talk to us sometime and see. If you only interact with me in ED, then you only see a debating me, because that's what this forum is meant for. And I get laid plenty, kthnx
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      I'm quiet the opposite of negative, come talk to us sometime and see.
      Come talk to us; what does come talk to us mean, who's us?
      Post a link to something positive about you, in here. I'm interested.

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      add something to the conversation about occupy wallstreet and the movement or you are trolling

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      "Mayor Quan fenced off the entire lawn, only allowing Oakland protesters to occupy the concrete area in the park. Occupy Oakland thought the fence would look better if it was put up like this..."





      thats a nice fence

      In other news, occupy denver is having a rough day

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      Yeah I heard Denver was having it rough.

      I wish Anonymous could go after day trading and take down the stock network, and then the Occupiers could block the buildings and disrupt the physical trading.

      Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      Yeah I heard Denver was having it rough.

      I wish Anonymous could go after day trading and take down the stock network, and then the Occupiers could block the buildings and disrupt the physical trading.
      You can't block off people from entering and exiting their own property.
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      What's wrong with day trading? Lets close casinos and lotteries while we're at it.

      This whole fiasco is making less and less sense. Reminds me of the Children's Crusade.

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      Just because I'm a little shit-stirrer... Here's another "let them eat cake" story:

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      I had no idea the Occupy Wall Street movement is getting this big...it's exciting. Liberals vs Conservatives, I read this would happen
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      I got an e-mail of an Occupy protest happening downtown near my city on Saturday, in front of the main banks, and I'm thinking of going. Probably won't also be able to move my money to a different bank/credit union though.
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      Quote Originally Posted by DeeryTheDeer View Post
      Probably won't also be able to move my money to a different bank/credit union though.
      Why not?

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      To quote Mr. Brando, "oh the horror". Or in this case, 'oh the hippies!'. Both being the same though.

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      Because day traders are actually an exclusive, secretive cult who want to see the world burn. Not just members of the public who invest their own money in what they think are worthwhile businesses.

      No you're right, the rhetoric is often so fucking incoherent and inane that Omnis Dei even came out with the 'act first, think later' line to defend some of it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post

      No you're right, the rhetoric is often so fucking incoherent and inane that Omnis Dei even came out with the 'act first, think later' line to defend some of it.
      Hey, nothing bad ever came from large mobs acting first and thinking later!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      Because day traders are actually an exclusive, secretive cult who want to see the world burn. Not just members of the public who invest their own money in what they think are worthwhile businesses.

      No you're right, the rhetoric is often so fucking incoherent and inane that Omnis Dei even came out with the 'act first, think later' line to defend some of it.
      Wrong, I'm defending people that prefer taking action when they don't understand what's going on rather than ridicule what they do not understand. We're at war for our economic future. Interrupting people from entering the buildings would free the stock market, holding it hostage.

      Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.


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