I'm not too worried. Besides... worst comes to worst (as in complete internet shut/lockdown) we still have librarys, telephones, pmail (get it? physical mail! I crack myself up). |
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I do not think that downloading copyrighted songs and movies for free is right. I do it, I'm not going to deny that, but I agree with you who are against this that it is not right. But this proposal is interfering with my freedom of speech. And if there is anything I'm willing to fight for, it is my freedom of speech. This proposal gives the American government the right to |
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I'm not too worried. Besides... worst comes to worst (as in complete internet shut/lockdown) we still have librarys, telephones, pmail (get it? physical mail! I crack myself up). |
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Last edited by mindwanderer; 12-17-2011 at 06:13 PM.
mindwanderer I got the same message a few times for downloading something too. |
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Torrents are impossible to track? |
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Torrents are easy to track, but technically you can't be held accountable for anything going on in a torrent. You're only uploading bits and pieces and then somebody pools together what you sent with what others sent, to create a full file. For this reason, piracy is completely without risk in Denmark, unless you are literally retarded. |
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I absolutely do not agree. It's all been done before in some form or another - there is no "original" music. The last "new pop music" rhythm format set to music was reggae.. and that was based on 4/4 - they just put the snare on 3 and the bass on 1, 2 and 4. All the so-called modern "experimental" techno/rhythm/improv stuff is rehash of what's already been. Nothing new under the sun... |
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The belief that anyone owns their ideas is absurd. The only ideas that you can claim as your own are the ones that you never express to anyone. The very act of communication is giving ideas to other people to use as they wish. Every musician 'steals' ideas from other musicians to make their own music. Every artist 'steals' concepts from other artists, from the world around them. Every thought in your brain is a combination of thoughts that you have 'stolen' from somewhere else. If someone is an artist, they don't need to try to protect their ideas from spreading to other people without their consent because it is in their best interest for those ideas to spread as far and wide as possible. They don't need to worry about other people making money off their ideas because people will be clamoring to pay them for their next one; the one that can't be stolen because it hasn't been communicated yet. |
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The ability to happily respond to any adversity is the divine.
Dream Journal Shaman Apprentice Chronicles
My favourite quote from art college students (heard it many times) was: |
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Xaqaria: how does that work with art which costs anything to produce? The idea that people would pay for the next product in the artist's brain isn't particularly connected to reality. Once a video game developer releases their product for example, it can be spread instantly. Why do you think people would give any money to the developer if it were not mandatory? There is no incentive here. |
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You're being deliberately dense here just to stick to a position which is obviously flawed. The original publisher/developer can give people packaging (which some people value a lot), additional materials (for example the Skyrim box comes with a map), technical support, patch support (say you can only download a patch if you have a proof of purchase), security of knowing you're not downloading viruses, etc etc. Do all these features justify the current price of games? Probably not, but who the hell are you to say what the price of a video game should be? |
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Last edited by cmind; 12-20-2011 at 01:07 AM.
Uh... I'm not. The developer is. You're the one saying it should be free. Derp. |
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If you really think that torrents are anonymous, try this out: |
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This is how these things actually do work. Developers do not front a bunch of cash to make a game and then hope it sells, production companies pay developers to make a game and then the producer sells the game with the hopes that they will be able to sell enough copies to make a profit off of their investment. The developer has gotten their money by the time the game hits the shelves (or is available for download or whatever); unless they also have some sort of profit sharing percentage in their contracts which wouldn't surprise me. |
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Last edited by Xaqaria; 12-20-2011 at 05:11 AM.
Art
The ability to happily respond to any adversity is the divine.
Dream Journal Shaman Apprentice Chronicles
It most likely only tracks popular public trackers, which will only catch a very small fraction of anything. |
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Go to your computer’s Start menu, and either go to “run” or just search for “cmd.” Open it up, and type in “ping [website address],” |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
Apparently Google, Yahoo, Facebook, Amazon, etc. may boycott SOPA (under the condition that it passes, which they'd hope it doesn't pass at all of course.) by shutting down their sites until it is repealed. I made a thread on the topic http://www.dreamviews.com/f36/sopa-u...sponse-126328/ |
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Even if just one of those sites shuts down with a message to its users explaining that they are boycotting SOPA, the millions of brain dead users (think facebook) who can't go a day without that shit will throw a huge fit. It will be interesting to watch, that is for sure. If only the airlines stood up for themselves this way when TSA was first created. |
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Art
The ability to happily respond to any adversity is the divine.
Dream Journal Shaman Apprentice Chronicles
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